• tatterdemalion@programming.dev
        6·
        3 months ago

        Only because IPv6 and self-hosting are not mainstream yet. But if it were commonplace for everyone’s home to have something as simple as a public file server or SSH server, then this problem would be trivialized.

        • dan@upvote.au
          4·
          3 months ago

          Opera tried to make self-hosting mainstream back in 2009 with Opera Unite, but regular people just weren’t interested. It was a web server built in to the browser, which had a few apps like a whiteboard, a way to write notes, file transfers, etc.

          Also, IPv6 is already mainstream in some countries. In the USA, several of the mobile networks are IPv6-only, using 464XLAT to allow connections to legacy IPv4-only servers. Comcast/Xfinity was also the first ISP to roll out IPv6 at a wide scale, and the majority of their customers had IPv6 connectivity way back in 2014 or so.

          Globally, around 50% of traffic to Google and 60% of traffic to Facebook are using IPv6.

        • IronKrill@lemmy.ca
          1·
          3 months ago

          For sure, let me just make an account, install the app, find and add them- wait, he drove over with a USB? Jokes aside, thanks for the recommendation, but it’s not any simpler than the 2011 solutions if you haven’t set it up already.

      • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
        4·
        3 months ago

        I haven’t been able to get Syncthing permissions to work. The frustrating thing for me with Android has always been inconsistencies between vendors and weird permissions issues.

    • OfficerBribe@lemm.ee
      2·
      3 months ago

      It is alright, but SFTP transfer broke for me some time ago. I think it is related to changes in Android, but surprisingly there were not a lot of posts about this issue last I searched. Using Android 13 / Samsung One UI 5.1 with Windows 11.

      • Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        1·
        3 months ago

        I use Material Files (from f-droid) as my default file manager, which includes support for mounting FTP, SFTP, SMB, and webdav shares. It doesn’t handle the connection getting interrupted very well, so if that happens i have to restart the app. Other than that it’s been working great for my SMB share.

    • renzev@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      17·
      3 months ago

      It’s pretty good. Definitely better then self-hosted stuff like nextcloud, because you don’t need to maintain your own server. But sometimes it takes a while for two hosts to discover each other on the same local area network.

      • untorquer@lemmy.world
        112·
        3 months ago

        I’ve never noticed any delay after first discovery. But i only use 3 devices so 🤷

      • Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        2·
        3 months ago

        I think they’re both good for different use-cases. I use nextcloud myself on a truenas system. I sync things like my pictures to nextcloud, and delete them from my phone after I’ve sorted them into the correct folders.

        This way my data isn’t clogging up my phone and other things, is still available from anywhere (as long as my home internet doesn’t go down), and it’s still safely stored on redundant storage.

        This does take a bit more setting up than something like syncthing, though it wasn’t very difficult at all. Basically install the docker image, tell it where my data goes, and set up a new dns record if you want it publicly accessible. I personally run it through a zerotier network so I don’t have to do that.

        • GFGJewbacca@lemm.ee
          2·
          3 months ago

          I like Nextcloud on my TrueNAS scale setup, but for photos I’ve started using Immich. It works extremely well, and does automatic backups of specific folders from your phone. The interface looks nice too.

          • Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            1·
            3 months ago

            I’m actually using Photoprism on the same truenas system to view my photos, I just already had nextcloud for the rest of my files, so I’m using that to upload. They point to the same datasets, so they share the image data. I believe photoprism is pretty similar to immich, but i haven’t used immich myself.

  • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
    47·
    3 months ago

    The amount of times sending myself an email is still the quickest thing is insane. Sure I could try to use notion or keep to send myself some random string of text but am I logged in on my desktop? Idk. Just use email.

    Also there are so many things like air drop, nfc, etc, but so many of them are so specific to certain devices. Maybe one day we’ll figure this out lol

    • renzev@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      74·
      3 months ago

      For phone-to-computer it works fine. But double-sided boi will still win if you need to send files to a dumber device like a printer – those don’t typically support MTP or whatever iphones use. Unless you have an ancient android phone that gives full block-level access to the internal storage/microsd card through usb cable lol. I really miss that feature.

        • saltesc@lemmy.world
          9·
          3 months ago

          So many people on here always talking about printing stuff in 2024. Is everyone a lawyer?

          • tourist@lemmy.world
            3·
            3 months ago

            Some banks and other places like that still require physical documents for stuff like proof of address, affidavits etc.

            Even though they’re going to fucking scan it into pdf anyway

            I use my printer to print silly stickers, because I am a manchild, but I don’t think I am using the correct ink or paper, because they fade very quickly and smudge sometimes.

            Also use it to print graph paper to doodle on.

            • TheEmpireStrikesDak@thelemmy.club
              2·
              3 months ago

              What type of printer/paper do you use? I find cheap photo paper works well for high res on my inkjet, although it can fade if you leave it in the sun. I’ve been using vinyl sticker sheets for customising my bike and it seems to be holding well, but I did laminate them with sticky back plastic first.

              There’s also the sellotape trick, but that only works for laser printers and you obviously can’t print white.

              • tourist@lemmy.world
                2·
                3 months ago

                The printer is the cheapest canon inkjet printer I could find new in 2021. I don’t have access to the exact model name rn

                I think I have glossy photo paper. I also had a few sheets of postcard size sticker paper that was not glossy and didn’t fade, but I recall it being stupid expensive, or that specific brand at least. I cannot remember the name. Would not survive the elements though.

                I thought about laminating it but I wasn’t sure if the heat would fuck the adhesive

                • TheEmpireStrikesDak@thelemmy.club
                  2·
                  3 months ago

                  When I say laminate, I just mean the rolls of sticky back plastic. I don’t know if it’s called something else in your part of the world.

                  It’s the stuff we used to use to protect our exercise books at school. You can buy special laminating vinyl but this stuff is cheaper.

                  Acid free sticky tape (scotch tape in the US?) will also work for smaller stickers, just make sure the sort you use doesn’t yellow. In my experience, glossy photo paper scratches easily and has to have a layer over it to seal it, plastic is the easiest option (also remembering when I made over 200 trading cards on photo paper and had to design, cut and laminate them all by hand lol).

                  I did test the brand of vinyl paper I used with water and it did hold up. I’ve only had it on my bike for a few months, but so far it doesn’t seem to have yellowed or faded. I probably should have cut out the sticky back plastic to be bigger than the sticker though.

          • Honytawk@lemmy.zip
            2·
            3 months ago

            I transfer data by printing it and then scanning it when I get to the location.

            I just like the artefacts it leaves behind.

            If it is anything other than text or a photo, I compile the file into a QR code and print that.

            A Windows 10 installation iso is about 1499639 QR codes

          • idunnololz@lemmy.world
            1·
            3 months ago

            When I cook I like to print out the recipe. It’s annoying to have to touch ur phone when cooking because you might be handling raw meat so it’s annoying to have to wash ur re-hands whenever you need to check the recipe. Plus using a phone when hands are wet is also annoying.

      • MudMan@fedia.io
        71·
        3 months ago

        Wait, what feature? You can’t access the phone’s storage? I’m pretty sure I can access my phone’s storage.

        • renzev@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          11·
          3 months ago

          Old android phones used to emulate a USB mass storage device when you would connect them. To the computer, the phone would appear as a usb stick. Modern android phones, on the other hand, use a protocol called MTP (Mobile Transfer Protocol), which is completely its own thing.

          The reason they switched to MTP is that the old approach gave the computer complete control over the phone’s storage; the phone would become completely unusable while connected in this way, and would just display a “connected via usb” splash screen. With MTP, the phone continues to be usable while connected via USB. But it has the downside that MTP is a much less widespread protocol than USB mass storage. On personal computers it should “just work”, but on stuff like printers it might not.

          Personally, I think they should bring back USB mass storage emulation as an optional feature. Heck, it can still be done, but you need to compile your own android ROM with usb mass storage drivers, which I’m not nearly skilled enough to do.

          • MudMan@fedia.io
            6·
            3 months ago

            Old USB implementation used to be a finicky nightmare, though. You make it sound like it wasn’t changed for a reason, MTP connectivity on Android as it is now is so much more functional, as well as safer.

            In any case, that solves the misunderstanding. I thought you meant you couldn’t directly access phone storage anymore, which isn’t the case.

            The printer scenario seems like an edge case to me. I mean, MTP has been the default for what? Over a decade? If you have a recent printer you’re probably fine (also, it probably has wifi and a dedicated mobile app or at least enough third party support to be used from your phone regardless). If your printer is older than that you’re probably better served by going through your PC first anyway. Sure, you don’t get direct USB access to printing photos, but now we’re talking about a very specific feature that was in use for a very specific sliver of time, and it requires you to be tethered to a device anyway. I don’t think that’s enough to justify legacy storage support on phones.

            • renzev@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
              3·
              3 months ago

              Sure, you don’t get direct USB access to printing photos, but now we’re talking about a very specific feature that was in use for a very specific sliver of time, and it requires you to be tethered to a device anyway. I don’t think that’s enough to justify legacy storage support on phones.

              Yeah, fair enough.

            • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml
              1·
              3 months ago

              If you have a recent printer you’re probably fine (also, it probably has wifi and a dedicated mobile app or at least enough third party support to be used from your phone regardless).

              Not to forget the gazillion security holes. But most of the features stop working after a few years anyway.

    • Jimbo@yiffit.net
      9·
      3 months ago

      Yeah, double sided boi looks like a great way to ruin your phone charging port if you don’t have a usb slot pointing straight up

  • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
    401·
    3 months ago

    Can you not just plug your phone into your computer, and then use your computer’s file manager to drag it from your phone to your computer? It’s this not a thing anymore?

    Why the extra step of writing it to thumb drive?

    • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.ee
      242·
      3 months ago

      These are the people who take screenshots with their phone cameras.

      OP is just revealing that they don’t understand device-to-device file transfers.

      • olutukko@lemmy.world
        5·
        3 months ago

        remember when it was somehow trendy to take a picture with snapchat and the screenshot it to it shows the tools on right and post that on instagram? that shit was stupid as hell

      • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        3·
        3 months ago

        I still do that all the time. I work with a bunch of different computers and it’s easier than sending a file or writing the info down.

        I get that there’s device to device file transfers, but it’s slower, and other employees would undoubtedly fill my phone with garbage screenshots, if not virus furry porn.

    • Emerald@lemmy.world
      2·
      3 months ago

      Can you not just plug your phone into your computer, and then use your computer’s file manager to drag it from your phone to your computer?

      That’s right, you cannot. Well, sometimes you can. MTP is quite an unreliable technology, at least for Linux users. Sometimes you’ll plug in a device and it’ll work fine, other times it won’t even show up.

      P.S. and yes I have enabled MTP on the android device

      • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
        2·
        3 months ago

        Idk
        I just plugged my pixel into my Ubuntu laptop, and tapped on the USB charging notification on my phone, selected “more options” and changed the selection from “no data transfer” to “move files”.

        Then my Ubuntu file viewer could see all my files. Or at least a lot of them.

    • Matriks404@lemmy.world
      1·
      3 months ago

      Except that if you connect your phone to a computer using USB, it will transfer files using MTP and it’s pain in the ass, as it’s slow and unreliable. Sending files over Bluetooth is better (but not much) over using USB connection.

      • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
        2·
        3 months ago

        No phone allow which? Writing to a thumb drive (I believe that) or connecting to a computer directly?

        Just tried connecting my pixel 7 to my Ubuntu laptop and it worked. Im pretty sure I’ve done it with windows too, on previous pixel phones.

    • kungen@feddit.nu
      34·
      3 months ago

      Maybe not trusting their computer having full access to their phone’s files?

    • PriorityMotif@lemmy.world
      13·
      3 months ago

      Most phones are only USB 2.0. I don’t know why you would want to mess with that if you don’t have to.

  • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee
    36·
    3 months ago

    IR data connection.

    Print out on paper & scan it into the computer.

    Copy the data into the computer in binary with an electron gun directly to SSD.

    Recreate the data from scratch.

    Install desktop os onto your phone & use it as your main rig to eliminate the need to transfer data in the first place.

    Use an USB cable to connect the phone to a floppy drive & copy the data to floppy discs. And enjoy the asmr sounds as you do so.

    Bluetooth if all else fails, but using a2dp dial-up frequencies.

    Accept that there is no convenient way to transfer data & just live without it.

      • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee
        3·
        3 months ago

        Oh, that’s a good one, high tech, no need for extra data conversion on the PC, works for transferring videos as well :D

      • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee
        3·
        3 months ago

        … oh, TIL.

        Outside of regular simple-command remotes I only ever used IR data transfer between my PC and Nokia 3650 (bcs the proprietary connector had shitty contacts).

        And it was slower than any of other methods previously listed.
        (I don’t actually remember, but less than 100kbps I think, about half the theoretical max iirc, some of which was the phone and the memory cards fault too)

  • Crafter72@lemmy.world
    24·
    3 months ago

    https://github.com/localsend/localsend

    I used localsend on desktop, laptop and my phones to sync stuffs between OSes and phones. What I likes is that it support multiplatform out of the box and works flawlessly between Windows, Android and Linux distros (tried both on Ubuntu, and LM without problem). It’s just SHAREit without any stupid weird stuffs on it.

  • kamen@lemmy.world
    22·
    3 months ago

    Syncthing ftw. As soon as I plug my phone into a charger, it starts syncing everything to my NAS. Even if it’s not charging, I can override the rule and force it to sync.

  • Funbreaker@lemmy.zip
    20·
    3 months ago

    I don’t even need a double-sided boi because my dumb ass got lucky enough to pick a cheapo laptop with a USB-C port. The little sandisk drive is probably one my best investments into the phone besides the case.

    • lud@lemm.ee
      5·
      3 months ago

      Pretty much all laptops have USB C these days.

      I also got a USB C flash drive and it’s indeed incredibly convenient.

        • lud@lemm.ee
          1·
          3 months ago

          Yeah, most motherboards from the last 5-6 years (or maybe even longer) likely have USB-C.

          Newer motherboards usually have an internal port so that you can get a USB-C front panel connector. I recently replaced my case for primarily that reason.

    • marcos@lemmy.world
      3·
      3 months ago

      KDE connect only works painlessly on phones that allow you to use your files… As weird as it is, that’s not most of them.

      But you can still move them around somehow and force it to work. Also, the same works for syncthing. USB drivers haven’t been the easiest option for a while.

    • Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works
      3·
      3 months ago

      Nextcloud “Carnet” is the solution I had been waiting for for years. Instant uploads to my instance, I can access the files from any computer. Boom.