alt text: a manipulated image portraying the alleged killer/controversial folk hero re-envisioned as a saintly figure, wearing Christian religious garb with a sun-like halo shining behind his head
Source: someone said this image hit the front page on reddit before being “censored”.
Apparent credit: @gedogfx (IG). Title source: “Inkl”. 💩posting for meme archival and commentary purposes.
People are unironicaly going to use him in religion in the future.
If he is a catholic then I pray that he becomes a legit saint for what he did.
Why not? Sainthood is an inherently political process. No person becomes a saint without intense lobbying and political pressure. You think Joan of Arc got her sainthood without politics involved?
And while the Catholic Church likes to claim a monopoly on sainthood, it really has no right to that claim. Most early saints were simply individuals that people in a community loved, respected, and later revered. A lot of these early saints were simply canonized officially by the church after they had already been venerated as saints by their communities for generations. There’s one saint that is likely just a misremembering of the Buddha. So people could absolutely start venerating him as a saint unofficially whenever they want.
And in the long term, Luigi could even end up an official saint of the Church if the circumstances are right. After conviction and sentencing, he could meet with a priest and confess his crimes in full and formally ask for absolution. And in the doctrine of the Church, that would result in him being fully forgiven for his crime. It’s the same way the Church recognizes the sanctity of warrior-saints who spent their whole lives killing. As long as they confessed their sins and asked for forgiveness from God, all is forgiven.
So let’s imagine Luigi did that. Suddenly his sins are washed away. Now we just have a man who is effectively a martyr for the thousands of victims of Brian Thompson. If that doesn’t a saint make, what does? Sainthood is meant for people who give their lives in the service of others, and that’s exactly what Luigi ultimately did. If it weren’t for the whole murder part, everyone would consider him a hero. And in the eyes of the church, confession washes away the sin of killing. Now he’s an absolved martyr dying for the service others.
Now, for official recognition from the Church, there would need to be some miracles attributed to him after his (likely) execution. But that doesn’t seem that hard to get. Tens of thousands of cancer patients praying for the ascended Luigi’s intercession? Some of them are going to make a statistically unlikely complete recovery. Won’t be hard to get the requisite number of miracles.
I don’t imagine the Church would officially recognize Luigi’s canonization within our lifetimes. But the Church thinks in centuries. If he decided to make a religious turn and really lean into Catholicism, he absolutely could end up saint, maybe in the 2100s sometime.
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Are there any more images? This one looks pretty good, but the title promised me multiple images.
If you download this image, then that’s 2 images.
The copyright industry believes in this one weird trick
He was arrested for US healthcare’s sins.
And on the third trial he was freed again.
And he sits on the throne with the father and the holly spirit… Wait hold on…no, actually this works OK, I remember the other two did in many more than just one asshole. The temple for example, someone must have been crushed there right? And what about the big ass food! Leaving only one of each dinosaur and two fish! Anyway, what I want to say is free Luigi. The guy is clearly crazy out of his mind. He probably had mushrooms as he was in pain. He took the wrong mushrooms and the rest is history. What is real is all of us asking that his life be spared.
Print it out and put it in your wallet to ward against high insurance rates.
Maybe it will also ward against extra scrutiny from law enforcement. Maybe.
Unhinged and I am so here for it. Peace be with you.
We are all cringe on this blessed day.
Pope Francis has the opportunity to do the funniest thing here
He can’t become a Saint until after he dies, unfortunately.
Sounds like the government wants to do just that if he loses.
I was ready to point out that this was not possible because canonisation requires the person have performed two miracles, but then I found out that there is actually a pathway without that:
Very rarely, a Pope may waive the requirement… if he, the Sacred College of Cardinals, and the Congregation for the Causes of Saints all agree that the Blessed lived a life of great merit proven by certain actions.
The miracles are going to be people praying to him to have their claims accepted.
I’m not sure they can waive the requirement that a saint be dead however, it’s sort of part of the definition…
Doesn’t one of the charges carry the death penalty?
I think there is an inbetween where you not declared saint but basically are declared somewhat holy ready to be sainted once you die.
But he’s already so beautified 😍
Oh, my. What are you doing with this AI pic you found in the internet?
Well, the Popeis the absolute sovereign dictator of Church dogma, so if he says tomorrow that Luigi is a saint, then all 1 billion Catholics worldwide must listen
Kind of. He is the leader of the church but the congregation of Cardinals also holds a lot of political sway over the office as well and advise the pope on all kinds of matters.
Papal infallibility basically only applies to the interpretation of doctrine and scripture by the papal office.
‘In nomine Patris et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti. Mora, abnegare et deponere. Amen.’
Looks great. But it’s a missed opportunity to not have this symbol on his chest:
https://clipart-library.com/img/808303.jpgAchtually, I find the Sacred Heart iconography quite apt given the circumstances. It’s about self sacrifice for the love of humanity.
The image of the Sacred Heart of Jesus is rich with symbolism. The exposed Heart, often depicted with a crown of thorns, represents Jesus’ suffering and his immense love for humanity. The flames emanating from the Heart signify the transformative and purifying power of his love, while the cross above the Heart is a reminder of his redemptive sacrifice for the sins of the whole world.
https://www.catholic.com/tract/the-sacred-heart-of-jesus-catholic-answers-guide
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Heart
(Finally, my many, many fucked up years of religious school has paid off.)
Akshully that’s a caduceus, symbol of commerce. It’s often confused with the similar Asclepius’ staff, without wings and sometimes with a cup.
You’re telling me the Greek symbol for profit is easily confused with the symbol for medicine?
Wow, the Greeks really were advanced!
Asclepius’ staff
Here’s a link for anyone else trying to remember the correct image.
Image with load, just black
Huh. I think it has a transparent background. It’s fine on dark mode in the web browser.
Yep, my phone’s shitty dark mode was the problem haha
No akshully needed, that’s exactly the kind of information that’s important. Thank you
Yea, but a burning heart also works well as a symbol for Caritas
That’s a halo, not the sun. Because he’s a saint.
Thanks updated!
Akshully that’s a caduceus, symbol of commerce. It’s often confused with the similar Asclepius’ staff, without wings and sometimes with a cup.Edit. Agh, I answered the main post instead of a comment, again.
This is actually pretty cool in the frame of Folk Saints, maybe I’ll write up a chaplet or something 🤔
Holy cow, how long will this go on?
For me as a European, it feels like I’m observing some kind of weird tribe that just sacrificed one of their people to the gods and celebrating it for weeks…
That’s really fucked up take on this. First, Luigi is innocent until proven guilty. Accordingly, he’s very much alive and not “sacrificed”. Also, you seem to mistake a wave of support (I am afraid our filter bubble suggests there is more support than there is in the average DS citizen) for celebrations. Also, by trying to ridicule the movement, you do propaganda for the establishment. So please get lost, troll.
he’s very much alive and not “sacrificed”
The CEO is the one that got sacrificed to the gods with the hope that the system changes…
I’m totally on your side when it’s about fixing your broken and also very expensive healthcare system… But I dunno… Maybe electing a president that supports your interests (instead of one that does the opposite) or going on the streets with Millions of others or a nation wide strike would actually change it…
And what exactly is the movement? Getting rid of more CEOs? I don’t see any movement here. Maybe, I’m biased… I’d love to see a movement that actually leads to change, but I don’t see it.
Well, I guess, I have to deal with a few more weaks of memes about this…
Best regards The troll
didn’t we try the whole elect a president that would bring the change, like twice now?
In fact, looking towards history, the only time we really had change for the better is when the working poor threatened the super rich
didn’t we try the whole elect a president that would bring the change, like twice now?
yeah… some of you tried it.
But an actual majority voting for the Orange one instead of progress after progress after progress can also be interpreted like a part of your population wants a much worse healthcare system and/or is very stupid.
oh ya, I too forgot that black president existed. who in an act of pure bipartisan appeasement decided to create the Affordable Care Act that we have today instead
and/or is very stupid
Yes. We have a rigged system with propaganda and a poor educational system by design. This is very powerful and possibly unstoppable at this point. The main reasons our stupid populous vote against their own interests. They are stupid, but it’s not necessarily their fault. Again, propaganda and education.
This is not an easy problem to solve. Mercing CEOs might be the only option… The whole voting and playing by “the rules” isn’t working. The rich are getting richer, poor poorer, and corruption is becoming even more acceptable and in our faces.
If 50% of the population stop working for weeks, this should be a lot more effective than “mercing” anyone.
“There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and cartridge (or ammo). Please use in that order.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_boxes_of_liberty
They’ve all but taken the soap box, we have “free speech zones” to “safely” protest out of sight, and when we ignore those the media either doesn’t cover it, or gives the most unflattering description, taking the side of corporations (see: Amazon strikes framed in "how will this affect your Christmas delivery. A.k.a: be mad at the employees)
They’ve taken the ballot box with Citizens United literally paving the way for what Elmo Muskrat is doing now: buying elections. We can’t elect the people we’d want to elect.
They’ve taken the jury through the elimination of the teaching of the concept of jury nullification (but also doesn’t apply in this specific situation) and have taken the Judiciary through ratfuckery (see: Mitch McTurtle refusing to seat any SCOTUS judges when it’s a Democrat picking them)
So all we’re left with is the “cartridge” or, ammo box.
They force this on us but “thankfully” at least some of us won’t just let us keep getting steamrolled. :/
As to how this could be a “movement.” It isn’t. It’s one person choosing the ammo box because like the rest of us he felt hopeless and took the only action he felt could achieve anything at all. (It did: see blue cross blue shield reversing their anesthesia charging plan right after the shooting) There was also the “renewal” of the conversation about healthcare which all but vanished. Check the “issues” from exit polling, healthcare barely showed up. Whenever healthcare was discussed previously it was in the framing of “people love their private insurance!” that being told to us by the media. Now the discussion is “maybe there’s a larger issue if people from left to right are all supportive of what Luigi did.”
Is that wave of support outside social media?
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Everyone on lemmy celebrates the murder openly. This isn’t “a wave of support” this is literally deification.
hate for a system that has abused its victims for decades runs deep.
expect it to continue at least, grow to encompass more saintly visages at most.
Unfortunately when you exploit the people of a place for too long they get backed into a corner and lash out.
That’s a horrible take lmfao you miss the point completely. Get outta here troll
Not quite, in America we always think of the sacrificed as belonging to the other tribe.
this is weird but who am I to judge what people fap to.
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Lemmy was so much cooler before it was a cult. All this murder worship is the lamest shit ever.
When you share an opinion with Donald Trump, it might be time to reflect and reevaluate your opinions.
https://people.com/donald-trump-slams-those-defending-luigi-mangione-8763517
I don’t care if you defend mangione, I dont care if you want him to get a low sentence or have his charges brought down and commuted, but yall are literally unironically worshipping thats my fucking problem.
And by the way thats a shit test, Donald Trump says he wants clean air and water (hes full of shit) does that mean every environmentalist is a nazi?
Didn’t you make your account 4 months ago. How do you know that the average Lemmy user either does or doesn’t believe that political violence is acceptable?
I mean this genuinely, why not just filter the words: Luigi [depending on how much you want to talk about Mario], Mangione, UHC, and depose?
I filtered “game day,” Linux, and all of the moe communities, because I don’t care about it and it will eventually wear on me to see a bunch of stuff related to those topics.
moe communities
He’s honored!
That’s fair, that’s a good take.
But letting thousands die through selfishness is totally cool, right?
Asshole.
Don’t bother with them. It’s not worth your time. They either won’t be convinced or they’re looking to upset you.
The latter has been happening more frequently. Probably because reddit banned any talk about luigi and now all the high horse trolls migrated to lemmy to get their fix. Not saying that person is one(dont know, dont care), but I find being aware of that sort of activity is helpful.
No, believe it or not, also quite bad. Not sure how you even came to this conclusion.
If peaceful means of bringing about change have fallen on deaf ears, then violence is inevitable and arguably justifiable.
Like if this act brings about positive change in the industry when nothing else did, is Luigi really the bad guy?
