These might be the good old days. Go outside, feel the grass, say wassup to your neighbors,… whatever you do that means community, because sh*t might get bad for a while.

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    Honestly it doesn’t matter who wins the election. Bam I said it.

    Well it does technically matter but I don’t think it is worth getting stressed about. Your vote is just a small part in the process. If something bad happens you can deal with it then.

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    Of the Dems win and they don’t put a boot on the neck of this fascist movement it will take over eventually.

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    Then you’re showing your privilege, and clearly haven’t seen the thousands of images and videos of shredded children coming out of Palestine for the past year.

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      Yeah, and I plan to vote against Netanyahu’s buddy who keeps saying he should do “whatever it takes to finish the job”. Stop pretending that a Trump presidency will be better for Palestine. Literally everyone who actually cares about Palestinians in good faith knows that a vote for Harris is a vote for harm reduction.

      You’re showing your privilege here by admitting you aren’t scared of Trump’s plans, which involves oppressing millions of people, because you’re confident you’re not one of the groups he plans to oppress.

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        A blank check is a blank check. Doesn’t matter if it comes from someone who claims they do it reluctantly, or someone who does it enthusiastically.

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          And if that is the only point worth voting for then so be it, but pretty sure there are vastly different stances on other things that should change your mind.

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            I vote based on their records. Not their promises. Their actual policies are remarkably similar.

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    Trump and team don’t need to win the election. They just need to make it tainted with enough irregularities that it forms the basis for the entire thing to be called into question. Even if that evidence is created by them. And this time they’re more prepared for that outcome. They’ve had years to work on his scenario.

    The court cases and investigations will go on for years.

    Doesn’t need to win a vote at all.

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      They already won culturally, as they managed to shift the political culture closer towards theirs. They also managed to set issues that are “theirs”. We see the same shit in Europe, were supposedly progressive parties are implementing the wildest dreams of racist anti-immigration, anti-refugee, anti-science and authoritarian surveillance state policies that the fascists dreamed off. All in the name of “stopping” them, while neglecting actually relevant issues like social services and infrastructure investments. Rinse and repeat and by the time the fascists take over all they have to do is remove the remaining formalities of division of power and democracy.

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      That’s true… They just need enough to start a civil war (and the entire point by Trump, and the rest of his cronies is to stay out of prison).

      And all he needs to do, is start a coup, but not be 100% upfront this time. And he’s been sowing those seeds… He also needs to take over the justice system and the voting system (and he’s been trying to do that too). The idea, like dealing drugs or the mafia, is to try to put measures in place so that other people get blamed

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    Hahahahhahahaha you think Trump is the last guy to feel threatened by? The dude was just the starter. There’s a whole movement now with tons of corrupt politicians who will try to get a shot at the presidency. I’m thinking about the Florida governor for example.

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      USA is a country with a lot of inequality, if not rising inequality, so a fertile breeding ground for populists. And it has an ancient voting system that always gives a two party system so perfect for this kind of polarisation. The system with campaign contributions will also make sure nothing changes about inequality and is making things worse. Yeah, it’ll happen again.

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        The voting system is so insane. I mean sure, back in the 18th century it made sense due to the travel required, but the fact that americans still use a voting system from that time says it all really…

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          https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Madison/01-10-02-0065

          There was one difficulty however of a serious nature attending an immediate choice by the people. The right of suffrage was much more diffusive in the Northern than the Southern States; and the latter could have no influence in the election on the score of the Negroes. The substitution of electors obviated this difficulty and seemed on the whole to be liable to fewest objections.

          Nothing to do with travel, it was just the only way to launder slave votes

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      You’re right in concept but DeSantis utterly fizzled nationally. Even in Florida he’s aging like last week’s fish.

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    Like. Did people forget how insane everyday was when he was President? Like you never knew what was gonna happen he was always wanting the attention.

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      It’s crazy that the vote is apparently close. Really goes to show how many “average” americans have utterly lost any connection to actual reality and have guzzled enough of the kool-aid to believe the weird whacky world of wonders the religious fascists constantly conjure up.

      I wonder though, is this ultimately a failure not of the education and internal offices, decades ago? We let schools let people down, leading to them becoming undereducated terrible parents who let their kids down and made them vulnerable to be exploited by republicans and churches and crypto grifters. :(

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          That’s not all, probably not even the main one. It’s a major cost of living crisis and impoverishment of average people while companies and the richest get richer. Neither the Ds nor the Rs want to do anything against it, they get their money from there.

          The people kinda understand this. But they’re not intelligent enough to distinguish “actually changing the system” with “just saying they’re gonna change the system”, like Trump does. Trump is always talking about uprooting the deep state and bringing an “average person”(white middle/lower class) perspective to politics, and people just gobble it up and believe it because he’s kinda good at talking with conviction.

          Of course the misogyny and racism is part of it and an extra, but it’s not the main reason at all. For some people it is, of course.

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          That’s a really black and white way to look at it. These are complex issues. Any attempt to find a simple explanation to them is by definition going to be oversimplifying it massively.

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      I’m just going to keep riding this horse until it fucking dies but the very first thing he did was take everything Obama did during his presidency and throw it out the window, including the pandemic playbook.

      That playbook would have given us step by step instructions and reactions to deal with any type of suddenly erupting national pandemic like Ebola or coronavirus.

      And because of this, which was by all measures a racially motivated attack on Obama, more than 1 million Americans died in a badly managed pandemic.

      Trump’s racism killed a million Americans.

      It undoubtedly exacerbated the problem for the entire world and his total kill count is likely much more than that.

      How can you let somebody who genocided millions of people through racism sit in the oval office?

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        It’s a cult. They have people denying COVID ever existed. Heartily rejecting vaccines.

        There’s just too much to list but it only ever makes sense if you take whatever he’s doing as right and readjust everyone around him to work does it ever make sense.

        The fact that this election is even close is absolutely insane to me.

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        Se simply by popular vote because people are supporting that shit, knowingly or unknowingly

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    I just hope if he loses, it’s by a wide margin so there’s no challenge. Just decisive victory and we can all move on….

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      Trump will challenge no matter what the margin is, if he loses. He will never concede because he’s a narcissistic loser and his moron followers will blindly do his bidding, especially on the next January 6.

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      Don’t underestimate their tactic. For the republican presidential campaign, they will recognize only one of two outcomes: victory, or election tampering/fraud/manipulation. And, the wider the margin of win, the stronger the rhetoric will be.

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        Trump insisted he won the popular vote in 2016. That was him setting this whole thing up.

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      As long as he loses I think it’s mostly good. He currently does not hold the levers of power, and I think as much as his supporters like to play the victim, I think a second loss will lead to evaporating support. Hard to pretend to be a strongman when you look weak

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        A second loss should be a death knell of the current Republican party. He won’t transition any of his power to Vance or any other Republicans. He could die and we still would see 10% of the Americans to vote for him in 2028 because his death was just media propaganda as far as they are concerned.

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        His rallies have fizzled and I suspect this year (unlike 2016) a lot of these attendees were paid for their attendance, hence the common early exodus we have seen from his “supporters”.

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      Expect the challenge. I’ve been watching the usual suspects on Twitter, they’re completely bwashed into thinking there’s only one possible outcome, and if it goes against them it means there’s been election fraud. They’re already calling it a landslide.

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      This, after ten years of this orange baboon dominating the headlines and flinging shit everywhere I’m ready for it to end.

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      I voted Trump but I completely agree. We need a landslide, even if Harris wins. Anything else gives the bad actors on either side fuel for an already out of control fire.

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        Sorry, but I just had to take a peek at your profile. You claim to be on an autism spectrum, yet you voted for a man who will - as the first order of business - make your very life extremely miserable.

        That is my take. May I ask what is yours?

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    I wonder if those folks who cast a protest vote for Jill Stein will be sleeping soundly tonight… I sure hope not. I hope they’re fucking terrified.

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      You definitely are going to sleep better by not supporting any criminal with blood on his hands. There’s many other things other than voting you can do to change things for good, if you are not fine with Jill Stein and believe she’s evil don’t vote for them either

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      Of course they are sleeping soundly. They’d literally be marching into the camps convinced they did the right thing.

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    Honestly, I doubt it. Even if he loses, he’s still going to be spewing his mouth diarrhea nonstop and his cult will still believe the shit he says. Also, I’m thinking the Republican party will continue his shit. He created a new Republican party. They’ll keep pushing candidates who will act and do shit like him since he’s been very successful in fooling his base.

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      I think if he loses theres a good chance that the people behind him will knock him off.

      You know what works better than a hero? A martyr.

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        I think if he wins he’s a dead man.

        He’s great for getting elected, but terrible in power, so use him and lose him, blame it on the other side.

        No reason to leave such a chaotic idiot in actual charge of anything.

        Hope I’m wrong, he’s like Hitler, he always gets in his own way.

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      Policy-wise it is the same Grand Old Party. The vibe and rhetoric is different, but the policy is mostly all there.

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    There’s surely no chance he can win… the last fortnight has been an utter shit show… I can’t see how it would even be a contest to be honest