I reported them for harassment with the following statement:
The purpose of this group is to review bomb any game that has gay representation. Their discussion threads talk about using other platforms to discriminate against LGBTQ+ communities and individuals to circumvent Steam’s TOS policies. This type of behavior promotes discrimination, review brigading, and toxicity. It is surprising Steam is tolerating such open homophobia on this platform.
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Until the curator gets shut down, their list is a great reference of games to buy
Ironically the LGBT community could probably use this list really well to find games they want to play involving lgbt things
I get not being interested in games that have strong lgbtq+ themes or story. I’m not, but I’m also glad they exist and people can find games that represent them. I’m also not opposed to playing as an lgbtq+ character in the same way I don’t mind playing as a female character.
Being so close minded you can’t stand for sandbox games to allow you to make a pride flag, or an RPG allow you to make a non binary character is just hateful.
Oh no, bro! Hypnospace Outlaw portrays a version of the Internet in 1999 that is more diverse and inclusive than it actually was?? Oh no!
I remember the Internet of 1999. It was full of awesome weirdos. Everyone thought it was great that awesome weirdos had a place to say what they want to say.
If anything, in some senses, the Internet of 1999 was far more diverse and inclusive than the Internet of today.
They think old internet was iDubbz types screaming the n-word, racist and homophobic jokes in flash games, and 4chan. One of these chuds were even angry at me when I told them forums had usernames and 4chan was kind of looked down by others for its algorithm rewarding rage baits and similar stuff.
I’d be angry if you told me 4chan had an “algorithm” too… It had a raw ass bump order and that’s it (does that reward rage bait? Kinda yeah but so does any activity metric). Algorithms design to guess what posts you want to see are the worst part of modern social media which refuses to just show you all of a user or group’s posts in order.
It was way more primitive, but post that got more engagement often were on top. This lead to users trying to bait each other for more comments, thus some fame, all without any name.
The funny thing about that is that what makes Hypnospace Outlaw so good is that the era of the internet it portrays was exactly that diverse and inclusive! Yes, there were both women and PoC creating stuff on it long before there were chuds going around calling everything woke. And, you still spend a good portion of that game moderating flame wars between two teenage boys over their made-up girlfriends. So I don’t know where he’s getting an idea that the game is anything but a realistic depiction of that era. Maybe if his awareness of Internet culture only began in the 2010s.
LGBT is a tag on steam so it’s really redundant, bigots can just filter the tag on their account page.
They don’t want to filter it for themselves, they want to filter it for everybody or better yet, stop it being produced in the first place. They make their tantrums as public as they can for a reason.
While I see where you are coming from is it not possible that such reviews might ironically benefit the LGBTQ+ as it helps to identify content that might resonate with the individual? Admittedly “Woke Watch” has fascist connotations.
We can just have curators bring focus on those games in a positive manner then. We really don’t need to give fuck wads like these any ground to stand on, they’ll just use it as a staging ground to push from. Besides if even hypothetically we entertain the idea of us getting something positive out of this it’s not worth it. We’re not painting a mountain range, there’s no happy accidents with bigotry involved.
WHY IS DEI BAD
Diversity Equity Inclusion. Some businesses have some people to try to make sure their hiring practices aren’t discriminatory, and that’s referred to as DEI.
But racists are against all of those things so to them DEI is a bad thing. And as these things go, DEI has become a codeword they use to express anger at anyone non-white having a job or represented in any kind of media. Like most dog whistles they pretend that they’re cleverly avoiding being overtly racist but it doesn’t fool anyone.
It’s state sponsored racism/sexism.
We should strive to give everyone the same shot, through universal free education, healthcare, etc.
Equality begins at birth, not when you’re just out of high school.
Instead we do a shit job at being a functional society and decide after the fact that none of it matters and you gotta get them quotas going.
As long as DEI, Affirmative Action, Positive Racism w/e you want to call it exists, you will always have people questioning the reason behind a minority person/woman’s employment, and their performance will always be scrutinized harder. Are they actually talented, or are they here to fill a quota? That is a valid question no matter what anyone will say.
This is right on the money.
what, you think a company that makes more than ten billion dollars a year should be able to afford basic moderation?
I don’t understand the thought process of following something like this. You’re just going to be seeing content that annoys you and getting mad…
Curators you follow have their reviews pop up in the store page when you’re looking to buy/download something, so if you want to avoid something, like easy anti-cheat, you follow https://store.steampowered.com/curator/32754914-No-To-Easy-Anti-Cheat/ and you’ll get this notice whenever you click on a game that uses it: https://imgur.com/Fvugcm1
That is the point, yeah. It’s just ragebait, but for the chronically online chuds who fill their days with 2016 era youtube videos that have red arrows on the thumbnail, yellow circles, black outlined white impact font, and then they also have the one picture of that chick yelling when trump got inaugurated.
People get addicted to this kind of stuff because it specifically triggers negative emotions, which they associate to certain phrases, concepts, things, and people, and then they get pushed further and further inward to rationalize it more and more.
You start from a false premise. The reason for curators on Steam is that recommendations pro/against a game appear on the game’s store page.
It allows you to avoid stuff that someone already played and knows you won’t like.
548 followers, they’re insignificant. Yeah, they suck, but there’s literally a button to make them go away and you never see them again.
Throwing a blanket over bigots doesn’t solve the problem because they can still recruit other dumbasses to their cause.
If you have a real solution, I’m open to suggestions.
Organize and make a social media disaster for Valve. That usually gets companies like this off their asses.
if/when it happens, I’ll be there for it (I’ll bring friends too). Between now and then, I’m not holding my breath.
Their cause being… recommending against buying some games?
the cause is to harass lgbt people until they stop existing. This tiny group is doing so by attacking game developers in possibly the most ineffective way possible. If the group follower count was a couple orders of magnitude larger, then I’d be concerned.
And what are those recommendations exclusively based on? Just because two thoughts in a row give you a nosebleed doesn’t mean everyone falls for such lazy apologism.
“Hm, there’s a couple guys spray painting slurs on my neighbor’s house … better close the blinds so I don’t have to look at it.”
Fallacy of false equivalence. Your example is of actual criminal activity (vandalism) resulting in tangible damages (the vandalized home now needs to be repaired, also surrounding properties lose value due to criminal activity).
Please feel free to try to make your point again, this time without using a logical fallacy or bad faith argument.
Both are about hateful idiots causing harm to someone else and choosing to ignore it.
Fallacy of …
It’s a simile, you dork.
NOT RECOMMENDED
[…] Non-binary character option.
HoW dArE tHeY GiVe Me OpTiOnS?!
P R O N O U N S ? ! ? !
My brain is barely able to handle amateur nouns!
With that absolutely pathetic follower count I’m not too surprised it’s still going under the radar.
Compared to curators that people actually care about, that’s a fraction of a fraction.
And yet, none of that makes it any less disgusting or any more acceptable.
Their point is Steam likely doesn’t condone this behavior; they just weren’t aware of it. Reporting it to bring it to their attention will likely get it removed.
No part of my comment suggests otherwise.
It is invisible under recommended, for me. I had to switch to “most popular” to even display it after an explicit search.
I mean… as much as it’s dumb, everyone has a right to make a list and review games how they wish, right? Some gamers don’t like loot boxes, others don’t like [checks notes] DEI or PoC in games. Better those people don’t buy a game and end up toxic elements in the gamespace, right?
I mean… as much as it’s dumb, everyone has a right to make a list and review games how they wish, right? Some gamers don’t like loot boxes, others don’t like [checks notes] DEI or PoC in games. Better those people don’t buy a game and end up toxic elements in the gamespace, right?
Making crystal clear to people like this like they are not even remotely welcome in your community after they let it slide that they have hateful vile opinions is the only solution. Everything else offloads the pain and suffering onto the victims in favor of not doing shit to actually kick those toxic people out of any respectable place that they can make their tiny pathetic voices of anti-trans, racist and sexist tirades of insecurity rise above a cacophony of shame and insults thrown back at them.
Throw eggs, shame these people, and though we can’t make them go away, after all we define ourselves on our desire not to wish harm or erase groups of people, there is no conflict here, these people have always been here and will always be here, the question is how afraid they are to let their disgusting hate hang out in daylight at any particular time. Bigots are cowards and they will fall in line as they always do when they realize the crosshairs are beginning to turn back around onto them, our job is clear.
Basically the correct play here is to force bigots to be closeted bigots, make them deal with what LGBTQ+ people have endured, see how their fragile snowflake personalities shatter on the tiniest bit of friction and pushback from someone who isn’t afraid of them.
Aka, let’s just have a nice time without them ok :)
Basically the correct play here is to force bigots to be closeted bigots, make them deal with what LGBTQ+ people have endured
I agree with the sentiment but I don’t think you are being completely honest with yourself. Churches are the worst offenders in this whole deal, yet for some reason pastors, priests and their congregations go about merrily with their lives. Going for some idiots while these engines of hate keep working is wasting your efforts. Churches should be permanently vandalized and people should be protesting outside, shaming anyone who goes in there. Why are they getting away with it?
Hold on, Animal Jam is on Steam now? I remember when that was a Flash game.
It probably still is, just in a container or something. It’s only the flash player for the web that was deprecated, standalone flash is still supported.
just looked it up – the version on steam is in fact Animal Jam: Play Wild – the 3D mobile version made in Unity for mobile devices – ported to PC
Fair, I just usually assume companies will do the laziest thing possible, which in this case would be to bundle the original flash game with a standalone flash player and call it a day
Don’t worry guys, I’ll sift through all this gay hentai so you guys don’t have to I’m a hero!
Thanks lad, can’t wait for you to find all the airport toilets that should be avoided so I don’t accidentally wander my way into a BJ.
I keep telling all these gay men to stop sucking my cock but they just won’t! I’m really annoyed about it!
I don’t see this as an issue, I see it as a recommendation list.
These are literally reviews pulling down the review ratings of the games
They are legitimate reviews.
Maybe they’re shit games.
I never played Hypnospace Outlaws, but Slayers X by the same dev is awesome. Also devoid of any politics. I have a hard time believing Hypnospace Outlaws has any strong politics other then characters having none-cis identities.
old timey news flash with a spinning newspaper headline flashing into view
SCIENTISTS DISCOVER ALL ART IS POLITICAL, IMPLICATIONS STILL UNCERTAIN, AUTHORITIES ADVISE CAUTION WHEN UNDER INFLUENCE OF ART
Tetris has entered the chat.
waves to tetris
Tetris is in good company here!
https://www.wired.com/story/tetris-movie-history-political-thriller/
Yeah, the story behind the game is political, but the game itself isn’t. Not to say those early, arcade games couldn’t be political. The Death Race game, was based on Death Race 2000, a satire on violence in media.
I’m not afraid of politics in media. I just don’t agree with the statement that “All media has politics”. The anti-woke crowd would have you believe that all new media has politics in it, which is an absolutely ridiculous claim.
Nah, just shit people promoting their typical conservative bigotry.
If they were, they wouldn’t need a group to influence the outcome.
Have you actually read the post?
Sure. For me the score is one of the last things I consider, so review bombing and what ever the opposite is called aren’t all that important.
