You want them to use plastic?
Then later complain about runaway plastic pollution?The same kind of circular logic applied to politics leads people to not vote, arguing that bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe and never make the connection that their chronic apathy and fickleness is what caused the mess the are apathetic about, only now with more cynicism.
They used to use cloth with patterns on it you could make clothes out of.
Thank you for sending me down a delightful little rabbit hole looking into this
I came here to mention this. What a lot of us fail to realize is that businesses weren’t always seeking to cut corners to simply benefit shareholders. There used to be a more varied model of looking at what made a good business and part of that was being a bro to your customers and a good citizen of your national community. They didn’t just print flour bags with patterns for reuse, they had multiple patterns to choose from because they knew that stigma would arise for people clothed in repurposed flour bags if it was one specific look so they did a range of fabric patterns to ease the stigma of people just trying to get by.
The concepts of social responsibilities of business has fundamentally changed to a model of performative abstention of harm rather than an actual visible bettering of anything other than the lining of pockets
Yeah, I was quite surprised by this as I’m so used to how capitalism ruins everything.
https://adirondackgirlatheart.com/feed-sack-fabric/
This is what I read and it was a shock to me that companies not only improved the quality of the cloth when they realised people made garments from sacks, but also strove to provide fashionable designs and wash-off labels. There are some really gorgeous prints on here.
Nowadays, it feels like they would make the original packaging more coarse, then sell the product with nicer packaging at a premium, whilst making sure their logo was indelible.
We are dealing with a really not great situation currently. Capitalism has become an all gas no breaks situation but that wasn’t always the case. Like there didn’t used to be many billionaires not because of inflation but because you had a lot of cooling effects. Banks in the US used to not be able to invest with the funds of the individual patrons. They could only invest with their own funds which made banks very stable in comparison to now. Being taxed 70% personal income at the top bracket also had an effect. After awhile aiming for profits just brought diminished personal returns so what they did was reinvest those funds elsewhere in their own businesses. Offering competitive wages to attract better labour, providing kickbacks to customers to foster brand loyalty, donating to create things like museums, parks, halls and university amenities.
Not to say it was at all perfect. Like those resources tended to be very personal glory focused and fell often along classist and racist lines but it did mean that you didn’t have as much dragon hoarding or the purchase, hollowing out and dumping of businesses that are thrown out like used tissues after extraction of all the potential value that is common in our modern age.
If you’re ever trying to convince a friend on the fence about capitalism, try leading with recommending “The Man Who Broke Capitalism.” (If they read books, like some kind of nerd)
The author doesn’t quite make the next leap but it describes the problems with our modern interpretation quite well.
It is adequate.
It performs it’s function.No need for extreme consumerism & garbage production.
It’s biodegradable, renewable, and only needs to get from the manufacturer to your cabinet, where it can be replaced with heartier permanent storage.
Real environmentalists just pack the flour into their jeans pockets to avoid unnecessary paper waste
You joke but bulk stores exist where you can literally just take your own container and avoid the crappy leaky bags altogether.
Classic Hank Scorpio
Same for sugar, it’s really annoying that so many things have switched to plastic. Gram crackers, Ritz and Saltines all used to be in waxed paper when I was a kid and were fine.
Now they switch to plastic, but make sure it’s tinted to mimic the old paper versions.
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(And yes, ofc it’s its, but my phone keeb is doing its best, ok, I love my HeliBoard)
what is the complaint? not enough testicular microplastics?
Says someone who’s never tried to get flour out of a plastic bag before…
You roll down the bag and stuff that in the bag. It’s not that hard.
Garbage take. Just fill it into a glass jar at home. Nobody cares about the 0.03g of flour lost leaking out during transport.
Also, i guarantee that there are bugs infesting the flour section of your grocery store and they absolutely hitch rides on the bags home
Former grocery store worker.
What kind of bugs are you talking about? Flour mites?
Honestly its been years. I just remember the bugs and that they werent roaches.
Flour isn’t stored in sanitary conditions. It’s just giant piles in warehouses. This is the real reason that raw cookie dough isn’t safe to eat. The eggs are usually fine, it’s the flour that’s riddled with disease. If you heat it to about 160°F you can eat all the cookie dough you want.
But my favorite hobby at home was spooning raw flour into my mouth and washing it down with melted crayons…
NYT just posted a recipe two weeks back:
Heat-treat the flour: Heat oven to 400 degrees. Line a sheet pan with parchment, add the flour and spread it into a thin layer. Bake flour for 5 minutes (see Tip). Cool flour completely.
OK. We’ll start using single-use plastic.
Can we get some extra micro thrown in for our balls?
Of course, for an extra 10 cents on the dollar.
(it was already included)
I only want microplastics in my balls if it’s lab grown.
Lab grown balls? ~Also the name of my garrage band.~
Hey remember the phase like 10 years ago when shower gel companies were selling shower gel with fucking little plastic balls in it as an exfoliant?! Can you fucking believe that was a thing that really happened fml
Those things were plastic?
I though they were like gelatinous or something
Boxes leak more. And plastic with make it mold if there’s any amount of water in it.
Why don’t they use those cardboard tube things oatmeal comes in?
Here oats come in the same (adequate) paper backs as flour.
I’m really stepping into a parallel universe right now. I have no idea what problem one would have with paper backs…
Baking pro tip for shopping: buy some buckets. 3 gallon is plenty big enough for a grocery store sized bag.
Get the cart to your car, put the buckets (one for each bag of flour) in the buggy and transfer the bag/s into them.
Then move the buckets into your car. They’ll be less messy, protect the paper bags better, and make carrying it in easier via the handles.
If you’re a high volume home baker, it’s still easier than dealing with ordering in bulk.
Boy reinvented the shopping basket…
Do you mean the shopping bucket?
People leave it in the paper bags? What a bad idea lol.
Ok let me just quickly transfer these 10 kg of 4 different types of flour I bought into a bunch of containers
I mean, yah. If you’re going to be baking enough to merit 10kg of multiple flours, you absolutely want them in separate containers. Even if you only have the AP, bread, and cake flour trio that covers most baking needs, you’ll want them stored in airtight containers.
It ain’t even that hard or slow; my crippled ass with arthritis can do it fine. Well, it hurts, but I don’t lose enough flour to matter.
American naming conventions confuse me. We just call the flour by what it’s made of: wheat, rye, spelt and their grade of refinement.
Bread flour? You can make bread out of so many different types of flour.
They have different protein content. Your country almost certainly has an equivalent system, perhaps with more descriptive names.
Yep. We have a type number, that describes how many mg of ash are left behind after burning 100g of said flour.
Since starch burns away cleanly, the amount of ash shows how much of the rest of the grain is still in the flour (the rind or the germinating part).
So it would be “wheat flour type 450” which is more refined than “wheat flour type 1050”. More refined means it rises better. But there’s lots of healthy and tasty stuff in the rind, so if it’s not a sponge cake I’m making, I try to incorporate higher types.
I like the flour bags, I would hate to have to buy in plastic containers.
Much easier for shoplifting, yeah. Just stick a knife in the bag and inconspicuously drain it into your fanny pack while pretending to browse other baking items. Walk on out and you’ve got 1.5 lb of that all-purpose grain glitter and no one is the wiser.
Flour is like the cheapest food you can buy, though? A whole day of cheese and jalapeno stuffed bread takes like $5 to make.
