What Trump actually said, in his opening remarks during the press conference, was as follows: “The United States and Italy are bound together by a shared cultural and political heritage dating back thousands of years, to ancient Rome …”
Edit: Even after reading this quote twice, I can’t really understand what Trump wanted to say.
America was founded on Roman ideals. I mean look at our capital building. Not only is it built in a Roman style there’s literally a mural of the founding fathers consulting with Roman gods.
My take is that he sees himself as Julius Caesar reincarnate, overthrower of the Republic and the first emperor of the USA. If you read about the last days of the Republic there are so many historically rhyming events that with the current state of America, a repeat of history seems almost inevitable. A spate of military wins means Rome becomes very rich very quickly, disband rival military power whick leads to pirates and banditry, widespread extremes of wealth and poverty, politicians riling the public up into a frenzy with populist talking points, using corrupt judiciary system to punish their political opponents, plebs forcing themselves in on senate discussions, Krassus was a mega oligarch banker who bankrolled politicians and held debts as favours to call on, the Bona Dea scandal, Clodius being unceremoniously taken to court for sneaking into a women-only festival, who is betrayed by another political rival only to then be equitted (jury was bribed), and the subsequent crossing of the Rubicon by Caesar, leading to insurrection, more political assassinations, and the fall of the Republic.
Trump aspires to be as awful and as “great” as the conniving ruling class of ancient Rome, because he us just as morally bankrupt as many of them.
It doesn’t matter if what he says makes sense or is true; if he says it confidently and double downs on it, people will be convinced (or be coerced to agree)
To play the ultimate Devil’s Advocate, the Romans did leave a lasting cultural impact on Brittain. So in a way we have a cultural bloodline that is distantly connected to Rome.
The American system is a direct descendant of Enlightenment Classicism, which includes a respect for the Classical Republics. Athens, Rome, Thebes, etc.
American federal government and arguably as a result liberalism is quite literally an imitation and attempt at modernization of the Roman Republic, which is, among other things, why we adopted the eagle as a national symbol and have a fasces in the House of Representatives.
False, according to snopes:
Edit: Even after reading this quote twice, I can’t really understand what Trump wanted to say.
It may be false but it isn’t any better.
Isn’t it some white nationalist shit about real whites being descendent of Rome?
America was founded on Roman ideals. I mean look at our capital building. Not only is it built in a Roman style there’s literally a mural of the founding fathers consulting with Roman gods.
He means they’re both White countries.
I mean yeah, fascism.
And it’s from 2019. Why was this even posted?
Alright, you might wanna sit down for this. Hate to be the one breaking it to you, buuut the Internet is not always a rational place…
Thank you, I was getting severe deja vu about that woman in the image
Can anyone ever?
My take is that he sees himself as Julius Caesar reincarnate, overthrower of the Republic and the first emperor of the USA. If you read about the last days of the Republic there are so many historically rhyming events that with the current state of America, a repeat of history seems almost inevitable. A spate of military wins means Rome becomes very rich very quickly, disband rival military power whick leads to pirates and banditry, widespread extremes of wealth and poverty, politicians riling the public up into a frenzy with populist talking points, using corrupt judiciary system to punish their political opponents, plebs forcing themselves in on senate discussions, Krassus was a mega oligarch banker who bankrolled politicians and held debts as favours to call on, the Bona Dea scandal, Clodius being unceremoniously taken to court for sneaking into a women-only festival, who is betrayed by another political rival only to then be equitted (jury was bribed), and the subsequent crossing of the Rubicon by Caesar, leading to insurrection, more political assassinations, and the fall of the Republic.
Trump aspires to be as awful and as “great” as the conniving ruling class of ancient Rome, because he us just as morally bankrupt as many of them.
It doesn’t matter if what he says makes sense or is true; if he says it confidently and double downs on it, people will be convinced (or be coerced to agree)
Imagine having to translate such nonsense.
The Olympics did it better
(More difficult than I imagined to find articles about it, there are plenty though from random sources)
I think he meant culture and politics has been similar since the time of ancient Rome, maybe thinking the United States existed that long ago.
It did not.
To play the ultimate Devil’s Advocate, the Romans did leave a lasting cultural impact on Brittain. So in a way we have a cultural bloodline that is distantly connected to Rome.
While you are correct, he deserves absolutely 0 benefit of the doubt
Ridiculous, I suppose next you’ll say that the US government has a senate that meets in a columned building!
The American system is a direct descendant of Enlightenment Classicism, which includes a respect for the Classical Republics. Athens, Rome, Thebes, etc.
American federal government and arguably as a result liberalism is quite literally an imitation and attempt at modernization of the Roman Republic, which is, among other things, why we adopted the eagle as a national symbol and have a fasces in the House of Representatives.
You have a WHAT in the house of reps?! Like … on purpose?
This was what I thought. Legacy of Republic, Latin words, imperialism, the usual.
This devil has more than enough advocates. Don’t join them even for a bit.
Thanks for the fact checking. You’re doing God’s work.
So the thing he actually said is even dumber.
Weird,
Trump already says a bunch of stupid shit on his own.
Not sure why someone would make the OP and make shit up.
It’s diplomacy, what you don’t say is more important then what you do say.
There’s not a lot this man doesn’t say.
He probably likes how the US is similar to the Roman Empire in being imperialist.
Imperialism I suppose.
I think he’s talking about the influence of Roman ideas on western culture.
No, don’t rationalize the crazy.
It doesn’t look like something that he wrote himself, and it does make sense. Wikipedia even has an article about it.
Trump says a lot of nonsense, but something isn’t nonsense just because Trump said it.
It’s white supremacy, he’s talking about whiteness.