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“At no point did I indicate my position, nor did I ask the responders to do anything that they would not, had not, or have not done for anyone else who makes a business dispute call.”
What the fuck is even a “business dispute call”? The police are not supposed to be involved in “business disputes” at all. If he thinks his deputies are supposed to speed through city streets to placate some Karen at Burger King, then he’s beyond educating and should just be removed from his position.
Also a big red flag that he wanted them to identify the owner or a manager, because that’s not fucking ominous when a cop is abusing his power and no longer wants to settle for a refund.
Yeah, the store manager was right to keep their identity as hidden as possible. That dude’s a textbook narcissist, and will absolutely abuse any information he gets.
Well he clearly must think the police are the Mafia, who would be called in to handle business disputes.
I mean…the police ARE the mafia. The biggest, and legalized mafia in the country.
He was wearing camo and a tactical vest. So even if they didn’t know he was a cop he looked like a guy ready for trouble.
He might as well tattoo “insecure coward” on his forehead.
The police aren’t supposed to be involved in business disputes? Isn’t shoplifting a business dispute? But if a company steals from a customer, then it is a civil dispute? Do you see how that works?
Shoplifting is a crime, not a business dispute.
Right. But if a business steals from you, that’s a civil matter, and the cops don’t get involved.
Not adding pickles to a sandwich when you asked for it isn’t theft, it’s an innocent mistake. You don’t need to threaten someone with jailtime over it.
Let me give you a real-world example. This actually happened to me. I’m a temp working for a large corporation. The corp decides that they aren’t satisfied with my work. I get a call from my temp agency saying “Your contract has been terminated.”
Okay, this sucks, but it happens. However, I have a bunch of stuff (which I own) on my desk, and now I can’t go back and get it because my keycard doesn’t work anymore. When I show up and ask for my stuff, they tell me to email somebody, and that person doesn’t reply. I even ask a friend who works there to go by my desk and set if he can get my stuff, and he says that my desk has been cleared off, and it’s likely in the trash somewhere.
So, I go to the police. The police tell me that it’s a civil matter, not a criminal one, and I’ll have to take the corp to small claims court.
Now. If I had taken something from the corp home with me (i.e. stolen it), which would it be? A criminal matter or a civil matter? You’d better believe that would be a criminal matter and police would be involved.
It’s pretty simple. You need intent to permanently deprive to be theft, and there’s little chance they can nail down anybody with that intent in that case. They’re not out to make you whole, they’re out to arrest people. Even if they could make a criminal case, you’d have to go through the civil courts to get restitution. Since it’s not a situation where they can realistically make an arrest, your only options are civil.
That’s theft you’re talking about. A criminal offense in most places.
Getting your order wrong, unintentionally, isn’t.
A business dispute wherein public safety or property theft are involved, sure… but not when someone is irate about their service. Unless that escalates to the former, it should not require police presence.
If I pay for X and don’t receive what I paid for, is that not theft? If the police are going to get involved then it should go both ways as a company stealing from customers is every bit as wrong as customers stealing from a company
It could very well be an innocent mistake made by an over-worked, underpaid staffer.
Do you really think the best way to resolve that situation is to call some bored gun-toting police officer to wave their metaphorical dick at them so you don’t have to be nice and ask for something instead of demanding satisfaction like a medieval fop?
Is money belonging to an individual not their property? What about wage theft claims, where a business doesn’t pay employees or takes their tips? Why is that a civil dispute? Cops usually only protect businesses and now people are upset when they gave the same courtesy to someone alleging they didn’t get what they paid for.
When they abuse power to give courtesy to themselves and no one else. “wHy ArE yOu MaD?”
What about wage theft claims, where a business doesn’t pay employees or takes their tips?
They never show up for these, unless it’s to assault and terrorize employees and protesters.
You really are quite the deluded boot licker, aren’t you?
The only person acting like a bootlicker here is you
I just, I don’t know how to respond to shit like this. Your taxpayer dollars were spent on this. You as a taxpayer had to pay for this if you live in that county. I don’t even know what words to put to that or even how to describe the feeling that gives me. I think it’s the beginnings of an aneurysm is what I think it might be.
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“I was not in my uniform, and at no point in my interaction with the staff did I identify myself as a member of the law enforcement community,” Sheriff Owens said. “At no point did I indicate my position, nor did I ask the responders to do anything that they would not, had not, or have not done for anyone else who makes a business dispute call.”
That’s disingenuous. The 911 operator, who works for the police department, obviously knows the name of the sheriff. Any police department flags calls from police officers, including non-emergency calls. The sheriff should have known better than to waste public resources to strongarm a business when he could have simply emailed a complaint to corporate.
Everytime you are in a meeting that could have been an email, remember that there are police raids that could be solved by looking at Google maps for 30sec.
And pointedly, the police only respond for criminal issues. They are not going to assist you in a civil dispute like this. Unless you’re the fucking sheriff. The best that could happen is the police come to trespass the caller.
They might arrest you to teach you a lesson in not wasting their time, though.
Or shoot you.
Obviously not if you’re the sheriff.
If 3 patrol cars speed through town with lights flashing and sirens blaring anytime anyone needs a manager’s phone number, that’s even worse, sheriff.
Over a freaking whopper! This was totally an abuse of power. I’d love to see what happened to make the employees feel so unsafe that they’d lock the doors.
many upset customers would act out violently or even resort to talking
Oh shit, TALKING?! That’s going too far!
Lol was looking for this comment. Pretty sure they meant stalking but that is a funny typo
It’s 2024, the only acceptable way is TEXTING ANGRILY ON ALL CAPS AND IN BOLD
“Chief Wiggum requesting backup. We have an attempted 10-52 here, I repeat 10-52. Attempted salad against a public safety officer. SEND EVERYONE!”
Farva : Give me a double bacon cheeseburger.
Burger Guy : [into mic] Double baco cheeseburger. It’s for a cop.
Farva : What the hell’s that all about? You gonna spit in it now?
Burger Guy : No, I just told him that so he makes it good.
[into mic] Burger Guy : Don’t spit in that cop’s burger.
Farva : Yeah, thanks.
Second Burger Guy : Roger, hold the spit.
Farva : Gimme a pie… apple.
Burger Guy : Want me to hold the spit? Hah, just kidding officer Farva.
Burger Guy : Want me to dimpa-size your meal for 25 cents?
Farva : Want me to punch-a-size your face, for free?
Burger Guy : It’s only 25 cents, and look how much more you get.
Thorny : Look, kid, he doesn’t want it.
Farva : I can handle this, Thorn. I don’t want it!
Burger Guy : Uhh, right. Beverage?
Farva : Gimme a litre o’ cola.
Burger Guy : What?
Farva : A litre o’ cola!
Burger Guy : [into mic] Litrecola? Do we sell litrecola?
Thorny : Will you just order a large, Farva?
Farva : I don’t want a large farva. I want a goddamn litre o’ cola!
Burger Guy : I don’t know what that is!
Farva : Litre is French for… give me my fuckin’ cola before I break VOUS FUCKIN’ LIP!
🍔That look like spit to you?
“yeah”
Ah, fuck it
nooom nom nom
Nice username
Hack the planet
See? This is why trump is so close.
A joke of a country. That’s what it is.
So… the sheriff’s decided he didn’t want to call burger King corporate to file a business complaint… but instead call for backup so that city employees could find the phone number for him? He should have to pay a fine for this.
I always imagined that Cartman was an elementary school kid, perhaps not
The employees unlocked the doors for the deputies, and explained that many upset customers would act out violently or even resort to talking, so they were just trying to be safe, according to the video.
Good lord… Talking. How could they?
Stalking. It was a typo.
Both are problematic
yeah, that has to be some kind of typo.
Someone didn’t get his liter cola.
Ramirez! Secure the burger town!!!
Aye sir! [automatic weapons fire]
It time to commit puts on sunglasses burger regicide
God, if only American cops were cool enough to be regicidal.
[air support inbound, SWAT requested, DEFCON DONUT]
Is that from a certain video game?
Correct.
From Call of Duty: Burger Town.
Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare
Team Fortress 3: Micro Transact
Cop: They’re tryin’ to kill me here, they know I’m ay-lergic to lettuce!
I don’t like that I laughed at this. But… Here we are. 🤣🤣
Well you are late2theparty…
💖
meanwhile criminals taking advantage of the fact that the police are distracted by stupid shit. nice job.
It’s all in the game. Cops spend time doing stupid bullshit, criminals commit more crime, and the net result is a cop budget increase because we need to deal with our crime problem.
The one department you’ll never hear anybody talk about auditing or cutting wasteful spending: the police department.
Lol the cop was the Karen calling the cops on bs fast food complaint. Except it was officer Karen so backup actually came and behaved like the attack dogs karens imagine.
