• Embargo@lemm.ee
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    Mara seems like a really cool person. I just listened to the behind the bastards episode with her and she felt exceptionally genuine.

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    Mara is fantastic. I especially like her voicing „The Old Woman Who secretly lives in your house“ in „Welcome to Nightvale.“

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    This made me look up the term secular in context to Judaism. How did I not know that until now?

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      How did I not know that until now?

      Unironically, I’d like to know. Not having a go at you. There seem to be lots of people who don’t know that. But without that bit of knowledge, the holocaust doesn’t make sense.

      The nazis defined anyone with jewish grandparents to be part of a jewish race, by law. That even included a few christian priests. Of course, the nazis didn’t invent the idea. People never liked converts much. When you prosecute someone, you want to get the loot. It’s never about selflessly helping people go to heaven.

      Historically, it’s a truism that a race is a result of racism. First, a group is hated or subjugated. Then membership - and supposed negative traits - become defined as unalterable, heritable facts.

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        I think it was something I’d been told beforehand, but it wasn’t filed away correctly. For me, the Holocaust was always a tragedy. Such a massive loss of human lives will always be a tragedy. In that regard, I didn’t see it as more of a tragedy because secular Jews were caught up in the mix. It’s a tragedy because any life was caught up in the mix. But I also feel the Trans-atlantic Slave Trade is a tragedy and we continue to feel and reap the rewards of that to this very day, where there’s a bunch of people that don’t even realise Africa is a continent.

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      For those that don’t know, being Jewish is the only ethnicity in the world that also refers to religion and (though no longer used due to antisemitic usage) national identities. Secular Jews are quite common

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        I also have a few friends who are practicing Jews (I don’t know if that’s the right phrase), and also atheists. Judaism appears to be more focussed on orthopraxy (doing things correctly) than belief, which was confusing to me at first, as someone who grew up steeped in Christianity

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        Yeah my dad is a Jewish atheist (or agnostic, depending on how much he feels like placating my catholic mom lol)

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          I am also a Jewish atheist married to a formerly Christian (although not since she was a child) atheist.

          And for those who say that you cannot be an atheist and a Jew, the following people are/were atheists:

          Larry David
          Sarah Silverman
          Both Carl and Rob Reiner
          Gene Wilder
          Jerry Lewis
          Randy Newman

          Even (although I hate to bring him up) Woody Allen is an atheist. Good luck convincing people either Larry David or Woody Allen aren’t Jewish.

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          how much he feels like placating my catholic mom lol

          Please tell me she has, at least once, made a reference to “your people killing my savior”

          I know an ethnically jewish/religious catholic couple that do this every time they get into an argument and realize it’s stupid to argue about, one of them will go “WELL YOU KILLED MY GOD!” and that’s basically the end of the argument because they’re too busy giggling.

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            I wish! My mom is DEVOUT. She has no sense of humor about it. If any of us tried to joke about it she’d send us right to purgatory (aka the catholic pattern buffer).

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      No, he’s English. Though according to Wikipedia his mum is Jewish and born in South Africa and his dad is protestant and born in Northern Ireland, which I guess to an American is “half Irish and half Jewish” because of their weird way of describing their ancestry like it’s their nationality.

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        Soooo his mom is Jewish and his dad is Irish…feels like you’re reeeeeeeally reaching for an “America Bad” here

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          More just “America odd”. From a British perspective Americans seem to be very obsessed with their ancestry and talk about it like it’s their nationality. Just a culture difference.

          Also be careful about assuming a Northern Irish protestant identifies as Irish!

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            That’s what happens when almost everyone in the country had ancestors who only came here in the last 200 years. The “American identity” is founded in the idea that either we or our ancestors were born somewhere else and then came here. It’s much different than someplace like the UK where so many are probably within a days walk of where one of their 10th great grandparents lived.

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            No, thats not just a British protective, that all of the world.

            It is well known how Americans use their ancestry, just as you described.
            And yes, it’s just odd, perhaps irritating (for Europeans), but it’s just how they decided to (self-?) identity, let them express themselves. And it’s not like they are keeping it a secret :).

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            From a British perspective Americans seem to be very obsessed with their ancestry

            Oh ok, well, in the mean time, say hi to your King and the Royal Family and your other nobility by ancestry for us.