• rhabarba@feddit.de
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    11 months ago

    I love how this is (mis)used to dismiss EU critics as “far-right”, although communists were always against the EU as well.

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      11 months ago
      1. The statement is from a member of the far right AfD party.

      2. “Communist” parties are mostly just right wing parties with a different aesthetic.

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        11 months ago
        1. Yes, it is, but it has become common practice in Germany to automatically portray things that the AfD also wants as “far-right demands”. That is, of course, utter nonsense.
        2. No, they are not.
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    11 months ago

    That woman (Alice Weidel) is a rollercoaster of contradictions:

    • She is one of the leaders of the far-right and nationalist party AfD, but lives in Switzerland herself.
    • She lives with her girlfriend but refuses to call herself queer and voted against gay marriage
      • her girlfriend voted pro gay marriage in Switzerland
    • Said girlfriend is a Swiss immigrant, originating from Sri Lanka, but Weidel promotes the typical anti-immigrant politics you’d expected from a right wing nut job
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      11 months ago

      Weird coincidence. Finland has a similar case. Gay man with black immigrant boyfriend in the alt-right party. I know the party can use him as a shield for racism accusations, but I don’t quite understand what’s in it for him (outside of a well paying office job)

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        11 months ago

        Such people are just in for the money and have absolutely no qualm of selling out their specific minority. And they always make the mistake of thinking, that they are special and that they will be loved by the bigots they try to placate. But history has shown that such people will always be the first to be purged when the party gets into power if they haven’t been thrown out way before that.

        In the US we can currently also see such examples with the MAGA crowd where non white figures in the movement find out the hard way, that the crowd doesn’t like them and is already shunning them because of their name, skin color or immigration background.

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    11 months ago

    The whole coverage of AfD topics is more a newsfeed reportig directly from the mental asylum. Nobody wants to know what crazy ideas the lunatics like Alicia Weidel came up with, today. (My opinion.)

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      11 months ago

      It’s the same with all the reporting about trump. It would really be better for all if this was reduced to the relevant stuff.

  • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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    11 months ago

    I wonder if she has some agreements with Goldman Sachs to curbstomp the German and European economy in the right moment, when they have shorted Germand and European stocks.

    I cannot explain this economic madness otherwise.

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    11 months ago

    If Germany left the Euro it would be great for everybody else as they make the currency far too strong for most countries, especially Southern Europe, so a German-less Euro would fall and relieve some of the debt pressure elsewhere.

    It would however be shit for German-exports because a Neue Deutsche Mark would quickly go up once separated from the Euro (as it wouldn’t be pushed down by other EU country’s lower productivity), making German exports more expensive and hence less competitive, which in turn would negativelly impact the quality of life of Germans.

    (Also outside the EU Germany can forget all about having the influence to save their own reckless banks by moving their debt at full value to EU nations and then forcing Southern European nations to pay, next time the Economy tanks and it turns out once again they’re overexposed)

    That said, having observed the whole Brexit thing from inside Britain, I fully expect anything but easilly parrotable slogans and one-sided criticism will go over the heads of the Far Right simpletons (that was exactly how Brexit ended up happenning).

    Mind you, Germany is a lot more capable of keep going with some success after leaving the EU than Britain, but it definitely derives massive irreplaceable trade benefits from being in the EU, especially the Euro.

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      11 months ago

      EU and Euro are not the same thing. Those memberships do not require each other.

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        11 months ago

        Sorta.

        Since a couple of years ago, new EU members are obligated to eventually become Euro members, and non-EU members need the agreement of the rest of the EU to have any say in how the Euro is managed (sure, non-EU countries can do the equivallent of dollarization with the Euro and just use it as currency or have a pegged currency, but that means no ability at all to participate in managing the currency which is what really matters for Germany in order to get all those sweet benefits of a currency managed taking in account weaker Economies) and there is only a handfull of small countries with such agreements.

        By leaving the EU, Germany would immediatelly loose the right to have any say on things like how the Euro is managed and would have to negotiate any such things in the Exit Agreement.

        So your “point” sounds a lot like the fantasism I heard in Britain from the Leave campaign: all about “we can still have this and that” whilst the reality was that ex-members are not entitled to an a la carte choice of all the things they want and have to negotiate it with the rest of the EU and since what comes out of that negotiation requires unanimous approval, they’re not going to get all that they want and what they do manage to get will cost them.

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          My point was meant differently than it may have sounded. Personally, as a German myself, I am open to leaving both the EU and the euro. I was only concerned with the implication that “Euro = EU”, which is factually wrong.

          Andorra, Monaco, San Marino and Vatican City have the euro, but are not in the EU; Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, Romania and Sweden are in the EU, but do not yet have the euro. A special case is Denmark, which is currently the only EU country with a “non-participation option” that has decided not to introduce the euro in future either.

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    11 months ago

    Only a rightoid nutjob could look at the colossal shitshow that is brexit and be like “See that? That’s what I want.”

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      11 months ago

      A spokesman from the extreme right party AfD once got cited with the words: “Je schlechter es Deutschland geht, desto besser für die AfD.” (The worse Germany is doing, the better it is for the AfD.) I think this highlights the underlying reasons why the AfD wants Germany to leave EU.

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      11 months ago

      I mean… she is also a lesbian woman who raises two sons with a woman from Sri Lanka, yet she is like “A far-right, racist party that favors ‘traditional families’ and has many members with questionable views on women and LGBTQ is where I feel at home.”

      I don’t question her motivations anymore, I just assume they are based on hate and opportunism.

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    11 months ago

    Can’t wait for them to drive around in a bus telling how much money will be used for healthcare afterwards .