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Cake day: June 23rd, 2023

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  • While it looks scary as fuck, wouldn’t it not actually explode unless the gas pipe melted through? There’s no oxygen in the fuel, so it can’t combust. I guess as the gas heats up, it’s also possible the for the tank or lines to spring a leak.

    Either way, I’d be nopeing out and calling emergency services.



  • Are you asking if it’s practicable to avoid everything that contains vegetable oil, as that may contain palm oil? Because, no, I wouldn’t consider that practicable. Or at least not any more practicable than not purchasing vegetables from a grocery store.

    Edit: Since we’re quoting the Vegan Society:

    Is palm oil vegan?

    In itself, palm oil is a vegetable product which does not need to involve the (ab)use of animals and therefore is suitable for vegans. However, the palm oil and palm timber industries are rife with very bad practices. In the EU, palm oil used in food must now be labelled, but ingredients derived from palm oil in food and non-food products still do not have to be labelled

    So, it is not possible for consumers to boycott palm products. Instead, ending the abuses of the palm tree (oil and timber) industries requires co-ordinated action by consumers, policymakers, vegans and non-vegans together.

    Vegans should also be aware that due to the fact that single-issue campaigns have focused solely on the negative effects of palm oil, other types of crop farming that cause harm to many animals are overlooked. We are working towards a world where animals are not (ab)used for human purposes. We encourage stock-free farming and alternatives to widespread crop clearance and other farming methods which currently cause many animals to die every year. Unfortunately, it is not yet possible or practical for individual vegans to only support vegan farming. However, the consumption of plant-based crops, such as wheat, barley, oil palm and soybeans, causes far fewer animals to lose their lives than eating animals.


  • Of course it is not actually vegan to clearcut rainforest for food oil

    I’m going to push back on this one. Palm oil doesn’t contain animal products, so it’s vegan. Full stop. I’m not saying it’s not bad, or that people shouldn’t avoid it, but it’s still technically vegan.

    All farming causes some amount of animal suffering. If your argument is that the harvesting thereof causes more animal suffering than other oils and that makes it not vegan, the same logic should be applied to vegetables as well. Monocrop and even organic farming causes more animal suffering than veganic farming, so should those vegetables also be considered non-vegan?