• froggers@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I know this won’t be a popular thing, but I’m gonna say it anyway. Leftist parties should talk a bit more about the same stuff that the right-wingers do. Would rather have a left-wing party bait people into voting for them with immigration rhetoric, instead of the fash.

    • Muyal_Hix@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Seriously, how come far right parties around the world are allowed to be as inflammatory as they can , but left wing parties need to be very careful about what they say or everyone starts screaming about communism and they get reprimanded?

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        1 year ago

        I guess it’s like a morality/ civility thing for them, but at the end of the day, you can wipe your ass with morality when the fascists are winning.

        • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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          No. you need to stay civil. If you go down to the level of the fascists they win. Their goal is to destroy democracy and democratic processes.

          Thy have an advantage atthe game of politics,because they want to destroy the rules,so they dont need to uphold them.

          This does not mean to be toothless. It needs clear positions and a strong fight,but not using their methods of unsermining the structure.

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        1 year ago

        It’s because most of our media and society has embraced capitalism and is motivated by profit, so any rhetoric that endangers bigger profit margins and economic transformation towards a more equal society is inherently against the interests and ideas of the influential actors of society

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      1 year ago

      Leftist parties should talk a bit more about the same stuff that the right-wingers do. Would rather have a left-wing party bait people into voting for them with immigration rhetoric, instead of the fash.

      What is then going to happen is that leftist values-voters will abandon those parties, so the parties deflate and still can’t govern. And if the new voters who were “baited” stay for a second electoral cycle, they then take control of the party and turn it into what we didn’t want to exist in the first place.

      You win voters by convincing them that you have the best answers to their problems and the expertise to implement them.

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      1 year ago

      Every time they tried this only strengthened the actual right wing. People then say “oh, if even the left says it, it must be ok. But then I might as well vote for the original”. That’s not an opinion, it’s empirical fact.