Microsoft, doing it’s part to make the world a better place.
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Some very small percentage of people will switch to Linux, the majority of people will just continue to use windows 10.
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They were data mining on non subscribing customers tho, in age of AI nowadays, data mining on real living people is good business
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I’ve never used them tho, most probably USA exclusive thing, i know Azure used in many countries companies on par with aws and Google cloud but it’s first time i hear about entra, didn’t know it existed
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I’m seriously thinking of trying Linux when Windows 11 is forced. My computer has the specs to run it, but I’m just tired of Windows and Microsoft.
Then don’t hesitate! You could easily install both side by side, in case you need some Windows exclusive software.
Yes, because normal people always throw PCs away when they stop getting security updates.
When Chrome/Firefox stop getting updates and websites stop working they will
So 5-10 years after Windows EOL
Hack the planet?! Finally.
My guess is that Microsoft will notify the users often enough, that’s something we don’t know in the smartphone space, we’ll see what happens
just use linux instead.
why are people allergic to
windowslinux?Gaming is the primary driver behind my PC choices by a humongous margin. I’m not really concerned about imvasive anti-cheat software, I don’t want to tinker with settings, I want to turn on my computer and play video games. That means I use Windows.
This right here. Lutris, proton, WINE, proton-QT, winetricks… Just so much shit.
I’m really trying to learn it but…it’s a bit much
You don’t have to go all in, use Steam for purchased games, and use the already created Lutris templates on everything else.
Proton-QT is for updating Proton used by Lutris.
No it won’t.
240 million grandmas, cheapskate businesses, and cash-strapped public schools will continue to use whatever operating system their computers already have, forever, until they break, security implications be damned.
My 76 y/o spouse loves Linux Mint. The 2017-bought desktop was deemed insufficient for Windows 11 and now runs Mint.
If all they use is a web browser and solitaire then putting them on Linux is super easy. Got my dad on Mint for years now. I recommend KPatience for solitaire needs.
None of these PCs need to go to landfill. Linux
Tell that companies who would have to convert their software and / or re-train their employees.
Realistically, most companies replace their PCs every few years. So there are probably relatively few machines running in offices that don’t meet the requirements.
The only people that will really suffer from this is businesses. They will have to buy W11, and they will need to get supported hardware. However, businesses usually have rolling upgrades in place in the IT and have probably rolled out many already.
As for home users, with each newer generation, they become more tech savy. I can tell you now, this won’t affect as many people as you imagine.
- 1: W11 is free to download from M$. You can choose whether or not to buy a licence. W11 cracks already exist, M$ is still using key management services, so something like KMSpico still work. There are also tons of activator scripts on github (lol, since M$ owns this!).
- 2: Grab a copy of RUFUS. Use it to take the W11 image and remove all restrictions, and dump it to USB.
- 3: ???
- 4: Profit.
As for home users, with each newer generation, they become more tech savy
Pretty sure the opposite is true at this point.
I think it feels like this because we have so many more users now than 10 or 20 years before. So the percentage of tech literate users has declined while the amount tech savy people increases. with the pool of users being satiiated i think we will have an increase in the percent of tech savy users again (as old users die).
Or, you know, finally just start switching to Linux, get rid of the Microsoft shit, finally. It’ll take you a while, but in the long run it’ll be cheaper and more reliable.
How will they run adobe apps and play popular multiplayer games like cod, valorant, siege, finals, league of legends, EFT? How will they subscribe to game pass? How can they watch netflix 4k?
Yes, the majority of people are content creator or playing multiplayer games with kernel level anti-cheat and know the difference between 4k and 720p.
Don’t overestimate the bubble
Everything moves to browser based, by that time, the OS won’t matter, Microsoft realized that too.
Yes. But to be fair they would have ended up there anyway.
I’ve got a computer with a copy of XP on it that still runs. Not connected to the Internet anymore, but it still functions as a computer otherwise.
Windows 11 can suck my stinky cock. Windows will successfully force my LAZY ass to Linux. I am already testing the waters with my laptop.
I wonder how long it will be until Windows is a subscription based desktop?
It already is, but it isn’t mandatory, yet.
I built a new PC last year and bought a copy of Windows 11. Holy moly the login process required so much bullshit that I skipped through. It also every few days tries to get me to go through it again. After learning about all the Spyware and other bullshit I decided to just take the plunge back into using Linux as a main OS.
Meanwhile Apple does this every few years and nobody cares.
What are you talking about? Apple devices maintain their resale value for years.
Apple locks old devices out of updates, although it takes about 10 years to do so. And after that, you can still do a workaround. Only problems is going to be when the last intel mac isn’t going to be supported anymore, then the old devices will definitely be locked out.
The system requirements are like any system from the last 6 years. Are people really using computers this old? I hear a bunch of people commenting about businesses but at least at the companies I worked at we never had machines older than 4 years old. Seems kind of overblown.
Oh yea and bring on the down votes. I understand this is Lemmy and anything that challenges the hatred of Windows is met with extreme disagreement.
In the past I had to upgrade my PC every 4 years (my first PC run on Windows 3.1), but my last one just works and even the GPU only fell out of minimum requirements of the newest and graphical shiny games end of last year (it even managed to run Starfield although it looked bad and lagged in cities terribly), but my backlog is huge, so I don’t care and if I care I can use Geforce Now or Game Pass for PC and stream that one game I can not play on my rig directly anymore.
Our planet is on fire and consuming less is the only actual solution to that. Everything got more expensive. I literally don’t want to spent a lot of money on a PC that I do not need, because the one I have plays the games I want to play just fine (currently Dave the Diver) and on top throw a perfectly fine machine away, add to CO2 production and need to cut back on other needs I have because everything is so expensive.
My machine is an i7-6700K 4GHz with a GTX 970 and 16 GB DDR 4. And the only reason this is not working with Windows 11 is the CPU and upgrading that would need a new board and at that point I need a new PC. Oh and I tested it at the beginning when Windows 11 came out, I can circumvent the restriction and install Windows 11 anyway, it’s just not guaranteed it will stay working and getting upgrades can be a hassle, but at least for the time I tried it I did get automated updates.
I do not hate Windows, I tried to get Windows 11, I just don’t want to accept that a security feature for businesses makes my consumer PC invalid for it. I am a gamer and I would like to stay with Windows, but I am not buying a new PC unless a vital part of my old one breaks. I rather stay with an unpatched system and do anything that needs security on my phone/tablet on android. And no, I am 58 y.o. and I am not learning Linux, maybe if I were interested in the Steam handheld it would make sense, but I am not.
Linux about to pop off
This year will definitely be Linux’s big break!
Well, it hit 4% on desktop for the first time this year.
1 year ago, Steam Deck already accounted for upwards of 25% of Steam Linux users.
I don’t currently have the data to back it up, but I’m pretty fucking convinced it’s actually “The Year of the Linux Portable Game System” and not “The Year of the Linux Desktop.”
Then think about what that means.
What is holding back users to switch to Linux? Games. For everything else a normal, slightly tech savvy user would want, there’s Linux alternatives. Games are the only deal breaker. If the steam deck forces/encourages game publishers to support Linux, that’s also a good thing for desktop usage.
Oh, I think it means great things, but I’m just pointing out that more people are switching to Linux for gaming than they are moving to Linux for a desktop. I think that will translate into more people being willing to try it as a desktop experience, 100% agreed.
Naa, fam. We have to fight over it. We’re on the Internet, after all.
Cool, a prime opportunity to scalp even more old machines by the end of the decade once they become valuable.
