• poVoq@slrpnk.netM
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    This English speaking “europe@feddit.de” was always a bit out of place on a primarily German speaking instance. The same would be true for feddit.org, I guess. Maybe we should just depreciate this community and see if another English speaking Europe community takes over? As long as it isn’t the one on lemmy.ml (which has major moderation issues), I think I would be fine with that. I only stepped up moderating it on feddit.de because it was very active at the time and the previous mod stepped down.

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      I specifically voted for feddit.org with this community in mind during the name poll, because it was more international sounding than the other options.

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        If someone wants to create an English speaking Europe community on feddit.org I would certainly not be against it. Ultimatly it is up to the subscribers to decide where to go.

        I pinned this thread in the community, so people can promote their proposed alternatives here.

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          So from that I gather that you personally do not have an interest in moving the community over to it.

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            I would much rather someone else takes over moderation, yes. Both because of various federated moderation bugs in Lemmy making it hard to moderate a community that isn’t on your home instance and because I have way to many communities that I moderate already.

            If needed, I would be willing to help with moderation, but not be the main moderator of such a new community.

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              To be honest, I didn’t volunteer because it’s a news community with a large audience. Debates can get nasty, and that’s something I try to avoid.

              I guess a lot of other people are in the same case, and why you were the only mod here

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                /r/europe became pretty much a Nazi cesspool and I feel on the fediverse it could quickly become a Tankie cesspool. I personally would not have nerves for that either. Would be sad to see this community die if the instance inevitably vanishes though.

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      This community is the biggest one by far. Shutting this would be bad IMHO. Is there a way to move it to another instance?

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        I agree. This one is definitely the most active one.

        @poVoq@slrpnk.net, maybe lemm.ee can be an option? The .ee domain name suggests its’ European, and all of the communities are English-speaking.

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          You can pin a message to a new one, and lock the old one down, that works for most of the people

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            In that case mods should do that ASAP, to give enough time to people to notice it before the server shuts down.

            Also should probably create the new community, lemm.ee doesn’t seem to have one already.

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                Even if the server keeps running, not being able to access the frontend is a bit worrying

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                  The community on lemmy.ml has the problem that there are some very persistent users that constantly post pro-Russian propaganda or similar mis-information to it, and the lemmy.ml admins refuse to appoint a new mod and seem to be generally fine with that. I certainly wouldn’t want to moderate a similar community where Hexbear and Lemmygrad users have full access to like they would on lemm.ee. if fact I wouldn’t even be able to as my home instance is defederated from these instances and thus such posts would be invisible to me.

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                    To be honest, neither Hexbear nor Lemmygrad has caused any noticable issues for lemm.ee. I recently compiled some stats for lemm.ee rule breakers by home instance, and as you can see in this post (in the “Administration” section), neither of those instances even made the top 10.

                    In general, mods haven’t complained about those two instances either, and the stats for community bans by independent community mods are more or less very similar. If any users creates issues in a lemm.ee community, then the community mods are free to just ban those users, regardless of what instance their account is hosted on.

                    if fact I wouldn’t even be able to as my home instance is defederated from these instances and thus such posts would be invisible to me

                    Preventing such situations for lemm.ee mods is actually one of the many reasons we don’t want to use defederation as a moderation tool on lemm.ee - we rather use site bans etc. Too much collateral damage with defederation, especially when dealing with larger instances which probably have vastly more innocent users than problematic ones. We reserve defederation for more extreme cases, like spam instances & CSAM.

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                    I’m not saying to move to .ml, I’m saying it still has quite too many large communities for most instances to consider defederating from them. Personally I block all .ml communities manually since kbin / mbin does not have a universal instance blocking feature.

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      Is this intentionally english speaking, or does this just reflect the population of lemmy ?
      I’d prefer a multilingual europe instance, ou chacun parle sa langue, para aumentar la diversidad.

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        I didn’t create this community, but there is another German speaking “europa” community on feddit.de and this one was as far as I know always near 100% English.