• Miles O'Brien@startrek.website
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    8 days ago

    Absolutelynotmeirl

    I was out of shape, I got in shape, I fell out of shape, I got back in shape, and now I’m mostly out of shape with a stable weight above average but not obese.

    I never felt this “better” thing people keep talking about.

    I’m glad it works for some people, but it hasn’t worked for me.

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    8 days ago

    How inactive was this person that walking three miles a week is considered “exercise”?

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    8 days ago

    It’s true. Powerlifting has done so much for my back and other injuries. I don’t really want to lift weights 3 days per week, but I sure feel a hell of a lot better when I do. Looking better is a nice benefit too.

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    9 days ago

    If walking a mile three times a week significantly improves chronic pain, you didn’t really have chronic pain.

    If you have chronic pain, it’s probably just going to just make it worse

    People latched onto this like add, no goth Karen you don’t have chronic pain, you’re just not a teenager anymore, that’s normal.

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      9 days ago

      Some people do feel better when they move more. I have a shoulder injury and my shoulder works and feels a lot better when I add yoga to my daily routine. If I take time off work and don’t use my shoulder, the next time I use it, it hurts a lot more and feels a lot more stiff.

      Different people suffer in different ways and can heal in different ways. This person feeling better by walking doesn’t make your struggles any less significant.

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        9 days ago

        I concur. I had incredible joint pain and stiffness while working an overnight call centre job early in my life. No social life, no sports, no physical activity… I literally quite and went on their disability program, it was so bad.

        Except, while on disability I rotated around to regular hours, started doing social and eventually sports things… And, what do you know? Turns out I’m fine --it is just that being strapped to a chair with four active customer support conversations going at once for eight hours every day was literally causing my joints to lock up due to inactivity (or similar).

        Went to uni and found a career that kept me more active. Now I get my 10k steps just idly doing my job.

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        9 days ago

        You mean the activity designed for thousands of years to increase flexibility by slow and intentional movements helps your flexibility?

        Crazy…

        But if it’s a back or lower body issue, walking a mile multiple times a week is likely to do more harm than good.

        Like, if the cause of chronic pain is lack of basic physical activity, and can be cured by doing a very small amount…

        Then that person never really had chronic pain. They just felt shitty because they weren’t getting any exercise.

        That’s why the bare minimum of exercise showed a significant improvement

          • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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            Then I’m not sure why you started talking about shoulders and yoga instead of walking…

            Like, I agreed with you that yoga would help your shoulder.

            It’s just not the same as walking a mile 3/week for general chronic pain, which is why you had to change the injury and the treatment for an example of it working.

            I’m legitimately not sure what the confusion here is.

            Like, sometimes I take things as obvious when they’re not to anyone, but you understand for walking to help stretch what is causing mobility issues, it has to have no other cause than lack of exercise?

            And if they would have kept up the bare minimum of physical activity, they wouldn’t have developed chronic pain?

            For someone with chronic pain as a result of an actual health issue, you have to resolve the underlying issue.

            But I legitimately can’t think of how else to explain this, so if you don’t clarify what you’re having difficulty understanding here, I’m just not gonna be able to help.

              • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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                9 days ago

                while saying shit that’s outright false and being a smug dick about it too.

                Oh shit…

                Someone sounded like they knew more than you did?!

                Better result to 7th grade insults, that’ll show them!

                I mean. What else could you have done? Politely ask them for a source to back up what you didn’t feel was right?!

                Preposterous!

                You might learn something

        • GBU_28@lemm.ee
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          9 days ago

          “cured” is not a meaningful word here, given the chronic nature.

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            Then that person never really had chronic pain.

            And that’s OP’s point? If walking a bit fixes your pain, you didn’t have a chronic pain issue to begin with.

            Do y’all not actually read the comments? Or do you all just dog-pile with “feels”? FFS, the comment you’re replying to agrees with you.

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              Managing a chronic condition is the name of the game. “Curing” is not. Walking COULD be part of amanagement plan.

              But.no, I don’t agree with the above, a “legitimate” (lol) chronic condition could possibly, context dependent be managed with motion. Possibly.

              Not cured.

        • shalafi@lemmy.world
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          I gotta agree. If walking a few miles a week is the cure, you probably weren’t so bad off to begin with.

          My anecdote: Been sitting doing IT for a couple of decades. Now that I hike a few miles, 4-5 days a week, I no longer have lower back pain. (That and properly adjusting my 20lb. backpack!)

          Comments like yours are why I look at the negative posts here. Nothing you stated was crazy, out of line, nothing. Lemmy: “Fuck you!”

          • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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            9 days ago

            It’s because it’s the same thing that happened with add or autism.

            People feel like they have the symptoms that they think a disease has, and diagnosis themselves. But they have absolutely zero idea what it’s actually like, or ever tried to seek medical attention.

            Give it another 3-5 years and they’ll move on from chronic pain too.

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      9 days ago

      Oh yeah let’s gatekeep chronic pain.

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        9 days ago

        i feel like its kinda related to medical issues so it’s less gatekeeping more… idk medical thing

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          9 days ago

          Surgical tech and nursing student here!

          Chronic pain is allowed to have alleviating factors that include walking.

          …it feels a little weird that this is a point of controversy.

          Uh… until next time!! scuttles away

    • piecat@lemmy.world
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      9 days ago

      Implying chronic pain can only be caused by what, injury?

      A person can be so out of shape that every day things “hurt”. Exercise gains are logarithmic. Walking a few miles a day makes their heart, lungs, muscles, work so much better.

      Our joints, the spine, need to be worked out or they will get sore. It’s the same reason that good posture makes you feel better than bad posture.

      • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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        Implying chronic pain can only be caused by what, injury?

        What the fuck else would cause it?

        A decade of refusing to do any physical activity and eating whatever they want?

        That’s not chronic pain.

        I would do anything to alleviate my pain, pain that you literally couldn’t fucking imagine.

        So no.

        It’s not the same as someone who fixes it with six months of bare minimum activity.

        • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.world
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          8 days ago

          It sucks that you’re in so much pain, but any pain that someone experiences on a continual basis is chronic pain, regardless of its intensity. A lot of chronic pain can be alleviated through exercise.