I want to donate to a linux phone. I believe in linux and I want a linux phone. Maybe we can use one in very few years as a normal daily driver. It’s getting closer and closer every month.

I want to donate that we get there sooner. But which project? I’m following postmarket but I’m not sure if they are the most promising. What’s your stance on this? To which project would you give your money to accellerate it?

Edit: I don’t want to buy a phone. I want to support the phone os devs. Sorry for the bad wording.

  • Guenther_Amanita@feddit.de
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    8 months ago

    I think either PostmarketOS or Mobian would be the best existing candidates right now.
    Hardware wise, the Fairphone 4 is probably the best option, especially compared to something like a Pinephone.

    I tried Phosh (Gnome mobile shell) on an exhibition a while ago and honestly loved it.

    However, I’m absolutely not confident in those tbh, in terms of reliability. The whole thing is highly experimental right now, and I wouldn’t trust them as a daily driver.

    Phosh is also available for Fedora, especially Silverblue (available as ARM iso), since you are, with me together, probably one of the most prominent Fedora Atomic fanboy :D

    I see big potential in a uBlue-phone spin maybe. I tried making one myself, but I absolutely don’t have a clue what I’m doing and don’t want any responsibility for such a project.
    Do you know if or how we could organise such a project?

    • Pantherina@feddit.de
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      8 months ago

      Look at startingpoint, I would be down to join effords but tbh I dont have a phone until some kernel gets patched to work on a Pixel 4a (or until I repair a “community supported” oneplus I found)

    • GravitySpoiled@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
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      8 months ago

      Thx! Sounds like it’ll be postmarketos

      It’s porbably best to connect with ublue devs on their discord

      • Guenther_Amanita@feddit.deEnglish
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        8 months ago

        Don’t use Discord, rather use the official uBlue-forum. That way, everything is public, better organized, accessible and not in the hand of some chinese corporation.

  • Pantherina@feddit.de
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    8 months ago

    Tbh GrapheneOS.

    Android is Linux.

    And unlike desktop Linux it was able to spread secure and private standards

    • every app is sandboxed, not some opt-in like Flatpak
    • apps start with no permissions (or at least very little), everything is opt-in
    • it is like 99% unbreaking, immutable, it just always works while my desktop Linux broke all the time
    • there is a webview, which can be hardened. Not Electron, which is insecure and bloated
    • energy saving etc work like a charm. 1% battery loss over an entire night!
    • hardware security with trusted element is decades ahead of desktop Linux (Ubuntu is just now getting TPM encryption support)
    • it is a unified platform, with tons of apps, many of them essential (as the platform is so secure), like 2FA, Banking, public services etc. you can have a full FOSS phone though

    I am sure excited for other operating systems but they are just toys. GrapheneOS does amazing work that is a 100% alternative today, for real phones with normal prices, good performance and outstanding security.

    • rah@feddit.ukEnglish
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      7 months ago

      Android is Linux.

      It runs Linux but it isn’t a “Linux phone” in the sense used here.

      • Pantherina@feddit.de
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        7 months ago

        Yes I know but the Term is simply incorrect. I dont have a better one though.

        And even though I am excited to use some Linux Distro on a phone I own, it will be way worse in stability, security and crucial app support than Android / GrapheneOS.

    • Mnglw@beehaw.org
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      8 months ago

      how are you only getting 1% battery drain overnight? my pixel 7 w grapheneos drains 10% overnight and battery saver makes it worse somehow

      I would like to know your secrets

        • inverted_deflector@startrek.website
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          7 months ago

          The 6 series was when google introduced the tensor which is where the stereotype for worse battery life, worse performance, and less efficient radio come from.

          I have a 6a too and for the price it’s fine, and I think a lot of the battery concerns are overblown, and for a budget phone competing with other budget phone devices tensor was great. That said the things that would make the tensor in the 7 bad are as present in if not more so in the 6a.

          • Pantherina@feddit.de
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            7 months ago

            I dont know. I had a 7pro and that thing got hot and was like a tablet. I 100% cannot reproduce this on a 6a. Its battery life is better than my 4a and before my Nokia 7plus.