• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    They’ve literally bombed hospitals and told the world the target was a doctor who was the head of the hospital system. They bomb aid convoys and call the armed guards Hamas. They hit first responders and call them Hamas.

    They’re pretty transparently just calling anyone who got a government paycheck a Hamas fighter.

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      3 days ago

      Not even worth engaging with the obvious wUdAbOuT troll. Ty for doin it but fuuuck mute block delete, or speak past them and to those reading instead.

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        3 days ago

        I’m bored, I reply to this thread while my dog is trying to find a place to poop. And if I can expose this for even one person it’s worth it to me.

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      4 days ago

      I get that Israel is terrible enough to make this stuff up. But have you considered that Hamas is terrible enough for this to actually be true?

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        3 days ago

        For the head of their hospital system to be … What? Do you think he’s directing an entire hospital system by day and launching rockets by night? The man never slept?

        And blowing up the hospital to get him instead of hitting him elsewhere?

        Without any actual evidence all you’re doing here is justifying war crimes.

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          3 days ago

          It’s very difficult to talk about this kind of thing without sounding like one is taking sides. So let me make this clear first: Israel is committing war crimes, there should be a ceasefire in Gaza immediately, and humanitarian aid should be supplied under international protection.

          Ok?

          Now, just because Israel is committing war crimes doesn’t mean Hamas aren’t doing what Israel accuses them of. Is that an ok observation to make around here?

          They are a nihilistic extremist Islamic organisation that many other extreme Islamic groups want nothing to do with. They engage in guerilla fighting, a prominent tactic of which is hiding amongst the regular civilian population. Do I have proof Hamas fires rockets from residential back yards? Personally, no. But would it surprise me? Also no. Have Hamas taken up day time ‘civvie’ jobs in aid agencies? Apparently yes. Would it surprise me if it turned out they coordinated with a hospital boss to use the space? It would not surprise me in the least.

          Is bombing a hospital ok? No, of course not.

          Is Hamas’ guerilla network completely independent of Gaza civilian life? Only someone who has no idea how guerrilla forces work would think so.

          Does that make the deaths of civilians and children ok? No, of course not.

          • Jack@slrpnk.net
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            3 days ago

            Why are trying not to take sides?

            The one side is commiting genocide against the other!

            There is very VERY clear wrong and right side here.

            • FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world
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              3 days ago

              How are you misunderstanding this?

              Genocide is wrong. The indiscriminate killing of civilians is wrong.

              That’s not taking sides, that’s saying neither Israel nor Hamas is right.

              It’s non combatants of both sides who are innocent here and the Palestinian civilians are in dire need of help.

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                3 days ago

                Oh I understand now, you are either troll, Israeli troll or incredibly dense.

                Please educate yourself.

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                  3 days ago

                  Can you explain whether or not you are in fact pro-Hamas because that would go along way to explaining why you’re objecting to what I said.

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            3 days ago

            Yeah I don’t think anyone needs a primer on Hamas possibly doing bad things. We’ve spent the last 2 decades fighting insurgencies. Chiming in every time Israel makes a claim with, “but it could be true this time!” without evidence is bad faith.