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Summary
Texas Land Commissioner Dawn Buckingham offered President-elect Donald Trump a 1,402-acre ranch for deportation facilities.
The ranch, near the Rio Grande, is strategically located and has been previously used for agricultural purposes.
Despite claims of immigrants committing crimes at higher rates, data shows they commit crimes at lower rates than the U.S.-born population.
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So, some sort of a holding camp? One where they can concentrate a specific type of people defined by political or other genealogical identifiers?
“They’re not concentration camps, if we call them internment camps” taps head
Just yesterday I sarcastically referred to the upcoming American concentration camps as “round up ranches.” I didn’t mean it to be a prophecy
INB4 the concentration camps get a Monsanto marketing tie-in.
Plants crave it
Something to prevent them from being too diluted.
Would a homeopathic concentration camp be gigantic but just have one person in it? Maybe a small child?
And if they work hard enough, they may be set free.
Holy shit
I wonder if they will eventually gather so many they need to install “showers” to cycle “prisoners” through?
Maybe someone can come up with some sort of brand to help identify and track specific people and their reasons for choosing to be concentrated
Maybe a yellow star, it would be bright and big and very visible. You could wear it on your sleeve maybe?
Or just tattoo a number on their arm.
Interesting. When the topic is punishment, there are plenty of resources. When the topic is helping people, it’s “who’s footing the bill for that?!” I never saw a headline about a 1400 acre ranch being offered up to house people in poverty, but it gets offered up to imprison people with the “wrong” names and skin color. And they have the audacity to parade out “America first!” as a slogan to prioritize helping Americans before worrying about solving problems around the world.
Punishing people for allegedly coming here illegally will do nothing to help me. Them allegedly having come here illegally never hurt me. Help people who have been unhoused or addicted to harmful substances or traumatized by abuse to get to a place where that can be productive in our society. That would obviously help them, and then they would be able to help their communities. It’s complicated and it’s difficult, but it’s work worth doing. I’m tired of lazy politicians and leaders looking for quick and easy solutions to fabricated problems so they can maximize the number of boxes that get checked. And that’s a generous read on it. The reality is that they’re greedy whores accepting money and power in exchange for punishing certain people while rewarding certain companies.
Republican politicians don’t give a flying fuck about you and yours.
All this whining about Ukraine aid but they’ll immediately blow 10x that amount to use the military to round up civilians
I don’t think you could have said this any better. Thank you.
Don’t worry RFK said he’s going to send people on adderall and mental health drugs to a cozy summer camp. And Trump has previously blamed immigrants for the homeless problem, so obviously all he needs to do is go through the homeless camps and deport anyone without documentation.
See? How dare you say they don’t have plans to place
BillionairesAmericans first!I dont think they dont care about helping or hurting people, theyll do anything that results in power or money.
They see an opportunity here for a massive amount of exploitable slave labor, similar to prisons.
This is an investment, not an expense.
This is a fantastic observation.
Get your first look at the future site of our next holocaust museum!
Good guys have to win at some point to actually get to that step.
Fascism never wins in the long run. It has to keep inventing a new enemy to keep people from noticing the fact that their policies aren’t making anybody’s lives better. This means it has to cut some people out of the in-group, and thus their base of support shrinks further and further.
Also, Trump is 78 years old, in poor health, and eats a lot of McDonalds. Going by the social security administration actuarial table, a 78 year old man has a 5.3% chance of keeling over in the next year. For him, it’s probably a lot higher than that. Projecting out his next term to when he’s 82, he has about a 30% chance of dying by then going by SSA numbers.
The only question is how much they fuck up before it gets to that point. They can fuck up quite a lot. The OG Nazis burned their whole country to the ground and took most of Europe with them. But they lose in the end in some way or another.
You think Vance and company won’t be right in there behind him to continue things? Trump laid out the populist approach, the only reason others have failed is because MAGA is personally loyal to Trump. Of course there would be a PR struggle to win that loyalty but someone like Vance or DeSantis is going to win it and then we’re still in the same boat. Trump’s popularity isn’t an inherent trait, in person he’s widely reported to be a narcissistic idiot. He’s a built personality, after him they’ll just build the next one.
Trump’s popularity isn’t an inherent trait,
It is, actually. Fascisim is about The Guy. It is only about The Guy. Everyone else is expendable. Vance will not pull the kind of support that Trump can, and neither will DeSantis.
You can see this in how people voted. There are a bunch of states this cycle where Trump won their EC votes, but a Democrat won a statewide election. What appears to have happened is that a whole lot of people marked Trump on their ballot and walked away. There’s no push to support anyone other than Trump.
The Germans kept fighting until Hitler offed himself. Then they capitulated almost immediately. Italy was done as soon as Mussolini ran away; almost all fighting that continued to happen inside Italian territory was with German units, not Italian.
Vance would try to take over, but he can’t conjure up the kind of loyalty Trump has. The MAGA brownshirts are behind Trump enough that news media figures and politicians are fearing for their own safety. That dissolves the moment Trump is gone.
The Germans absolutely did not. They were surrendering in droves well before Hitler killed himself. The government did not officially surrender but everyone knew it was over. And fascist extremists continued to fight well after he died.
Nope. They don’t have personalities like Trump. Trump has been a known name since before I was born. Vance? DeSantis? They can’t replicate the cult of personality. They might thing they can, but that’s the thing about cults. Once the head of the snake is off, it stops acting like a snake
And more like a gross belt
That’s the popular idea but it’s not a one to one analogy. MAGA is also a political movement that thinks it’s rebelling against Washington Insiders. That’s why he’s replaceable.
Well it’s either that or a slow and steady decline into complete global extinction of all large animal life including us.
So let’s hope for the museums
Buy a gun today, before people are banned from owning them based on political affiliation
There is a small Holocaust museum in the town where I currently live. It was founded by Eva Kor, an amazing Holocaust survivor (and Mengele victim) who preached forgiveness, even publicly forgiving the Nazis who tortured her and killed her family. She settled here in Terre Haute, Indiana and eventually opened the museum.
https://candlesholocaustmuseum.org/
Except when school buses are there to force the local kids to go (and I’m sure they aren’t really interested), the parking lot is almost always empty.
People don’t give a shit about the last Holocaust. No reason for them to give a shit about this one.
There’s a reason why a lot of my family tree doesn’t fork and it’s why I’m getting the fuck out.
More like a monument celebrating it.
Mommy why do they call this a “work camp?”
FUCK EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO TOLD ME TRUMP IS NOT GOING TO PUT PEOPLE IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS.
FUCK
ALL
OF
YOU.
Why fuck them, and why with so much anger? Be angry at Trump.
The only way I’d be angry is if someone told me that and I voted for the guy.
…wait, tell me you didn’t
I can be angry at both. And seriously? Why so much anger about the people telling me that Trump won’t be opening concentration camps before the election as a reason that it was okay to not vote for Harris? Are you kidding me?
Texas Offering LAND to someone who wants to DEPORT people has NOTHING to do with building Concentration Camps!
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I’ve read the whole thing from top to bottom and “concentration camps” was mention a whopping zero times.
You either read headlines and assume things or just plainly don’t know how to read.
Parent said it has NOTHING to do with building concentration camps. So it would be odd to expect that word in the article. Or did you realize they were being sarcastic? Then I guess you just didn’t like the joke and responded with being pedantic to distract from the point.
Republicans have zero empathy, therefore zero humor or sarcasm function. It’s usually beaten out of them by their father or mother.
Oh I get it, parent is bringing up a point unrelated to the article so we can discuss that instead of the issue of mass deportations! I don’t do sarcasm I guess.
You also don’t do logical conclusions apparently.
Where do you think millions of people will be held while awaiting deportation?
Where do they deport someone to who does not have citizenship somewhere else? Right, you don’t. You keep them in camps.
Read a history book. Like no seriously.
Do us all a favor and define concentration camp.
Many things can be true. You can be sarcastic along with all the other observations made.
Yes, because they’re just going to flat out state that they’re planning on building concentration camps.
“I mean clearly, it’s a concentration RANCH, FFS”
Take your upvote and get out.
It takes a first grade reading level to draw the correlation between illegal prisons camps and concentration camps. Everyone else got there but you. Read a history book.
And Hitler didn’t say the worlds either “genocide” or “holocaust” one single time!
Which is why we all know the Holocaust was definitely a lie and the Nazis never committed any genocide, am I right?
And I suppose when chimney stacks start being built its just to keep everyone warm?
When you gather a large population of individuals with the intention to deport them you need a host countrys willingness to except a influx of individuals. This may be a tricky and long bureaucratic process.
This means people could be sitting in these walled “camps” for a very long time, with no ability to freely leave. There will more then likely be full families in these camps, which then over time can turn into slums or ghettos.
Alternatively you could just invade the neighbouring country and ship them all there.
Buddy…
And North Korea is a “Democratic People’s Republic”.
In a letter sent Tuesday, Texas Land Commissioner Dawn Buckingham notified Trump she had purchased a 1,402-acre ranch along the U.S.-Mexico border, about 35 miles west of McAllen. She also assured him that her office would work with federal agencies to construct a detention center.
This wasn’t just empty land sitting around that Texas already owned, she purchased it specifically to give to trump so he could build a concentration camp. Is she the world’s biggest brown noser trying to get a pat on the head from trump, or is she a deranged fascist who gets off on ruining lives? Maybe both?
Could be both but could also be financial. I’m sure this has the potential to earn her a lot of money. This detention facility could be there for 10+ years as countries reject receiving these people. That on top of the legal battles that will inevitably slow everything down while people are detained. That’s a lot of rent to be collected, on top of all the other exorbitant fees I imagine will be in the contract. All you have to do is be morally bankrupt.
Yup! What’s extra “funny” is that the federal government will probably foot the bill and thus these dirty immigrants will cost the regular Joe exorbitantly more - both in lost contribution to the economy and taxes but also in fees for being detained - than they would have if they would leave them the fuck alone. It better yet give them a realistic path to citizenship.
Right wingers are either fucking dumb as shit or 100% morally depraved. It makes my blood boil to the point that I cannot follow the news. And I ain’t even living in the US. Just pisses me off to no end still how absolutely heartless and fucked people can be.
“Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”
No. This is malice. This is hate. This is what evil looks like. We know what this leads to. Stupidity here is willing and unacceptable.
No. I’m not buying that anymore. People know goddamn well that their actions hurt others. They just choose to ignore it, be it due to their greed, fear, insecurities, or whatever. But all those fuckers voting for extreme right wing policies are not stupid. Some might be gullible and buy into whatever bullshit claims that feed their fear. But they still look at others and their suffering, and decide to say “fuck you, I deserve what I believe is mine”. That’s not being stupid, that’s being a fucking cancer to society.
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Sec of education like devos probably
Nope. He already made that choice and it’s stupider than that.
Strange that Texas, which wants a large population of people deported, would also be the first to choose to “open it’s doors” and say “bring them all here”
They offer land freely in their backyard to build what essentially could turn into the equivalent of a slum or ghetto.
I would imagine more like concentration camps.
When the paperwork, effort and/or cost gets too much they’ll just start killing them.
Its Texas. They just have to leave it open during the winter. Or the fall. Or the summer. Or probably the spring in a year or two.
Climate change and the inevitable week long power outages because of a self “managed” grid is more than enough to cause mass deaths.
McAllen is only 65mi from the ocean; a hurricane would be horrific. It’s not like Texas gets hit by hurricanes a lot, right? Right?
Correct, and keep cashing the federal checks for “border security” Trump will arrange with them.
I can’t imagin a neighbouring country accepting a large influx of people quickly or willingly. So Texas may find themselves “looking after” the people they send here for a long time.
I may be wrong on the process, but in Germany i believe it started with a community or neighbourhood being walled off. Think of a suburb or maybe a few large city blocks. People had to come and go through checkpoints and some were not allowed to leave.
After which these walled communities became slums or ghettos. Then the Nazis began to ship peoples from these walled communities out to Poland and neighbouring countries (that they invaded) into concentration camps.
History always repeats itself unfortunately.
They need a camp where they can concentrate on helping them!
Private prison gets built there $$$
its right next to the border where texas will happily toss them in the river, or force them to the other side. ‘problem solved’.
The German news reported the Holocaust in a similar fashion. It was just something that was happening. Germans had the ability to shut it out and pretend nothing was happening. Mass deportation turned to mass executions.
Europeans, Canadians, everyone, take these people before my countrymen murder them
Texchwitz
Yay! A concentration camp!
No, it’s a concentration ranch! Totally different.
If any state was gonna offer up a huge patch of land for concentration camps, it would have to be texas.
Everything is bigger in Texas, especially the concentration camps.
Straight up concentration camps.
Well how else are people with ADHD going to focus without their adderal?
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They kept the concentration camps hidden, so they’ll probably call these something else that sounds juuuust safe enough for the news outlets who are brave enough to report on them. ?until those news outlets have their funding cut)
… so they’ll probably call these something else…
How about RoundUp places?
If you were to see a article that said Texas is offering land to build a affordable housing neighbourhood, people would probably loose their shit in the USA.
Trouble is the plan is to send full families to these camps. These individuals will be waiting here a long time without the agility to freely leave.
Unless they plan to split women, men, and children apart. That means these camps will need to be built like walled neighbourhoods with schools for the kids while they wait. Housing with AC and heating, electricity, plumbing, fire protection. Streets to get around inside the complex, stores or shops.
Unless they plan to split women, men, and children apart
I have some bad news for you…
I’m sure this totally unprecedented plan is nothing to worry about. It’s not as though history is replete with similar plans that went awry.
I’m sure that, once concentrated into this one location, the people being deported will be safe and sound and free of disease and well-fed. And when no country agrees to take them in, I’m sure they’ll just continue to be well-cared for in the encampment and there won’t be any problem and certainly there won’t be any spurious stories of riots or uprisings that need to be put down and which sadly result in the killing of pretty much all of the immigrants being held there. It will be fine. This is all fine and very, very normal.
