Until the rule is removed, any new posts about US politics will be removed.
ABOUT FUCKING TIME!
Instead of complaining can someone who dislikes this decision please just create a community like “AskLemmyUS”, post a link here so people can find it and get on with it?
That’s what I’ve told so many complaining people. If anyone wanted to they could make one and it would be filled with users in hours, just click create community. Hell tell the mods here to suggest people go there for those discussions, they’d probably link it in the sidebar. But someone has to do it. (And as a mod of a few other communities, someone else can take that one)
But that would be US ExCePtIoNaLiSm!
No, US exceptionalism is turning every single general purpose community into US politics.
For the 4% of Earth’s population that does indeed live in the US, there could be local communities.
It’s still weird to me that there is no US instance. LW and lemm.ee are hosted in Europe, SJW and lemmy.ca in Canada, lemmy.ml and hexbear use a European datacenter.
I mean there is midwest.social and dubvee, but we could have expected a large US instance to have emerged by now.
The closest is probably https://lemmy.today/, but only has 194 users per month.
How the fuck is Lemmy supposed to serve as an open alternative to corporate controlled social media when the mods ban discussing one of the most impactful events of the day? You should be begging people to talk about politics here. Unsubbed. EDIT: AND BLOCKED. If I wanted to hang out in a fascist community I’d join twitter.
Good riddance man, Sheesh. Why are you so upset?
I’m for making a megathread for people who really want to talk about it here but I genuinely don’t understand why you’re upset you can’t talk about US politics everywhere in the platform. There are tons of communities for that. AskLemmy is for
open-ended, thought provoking questions
Instead, most US related posts are for venting and complaining. See these communities instead:
And dozens of similar communities on other instances. It’s not censorship to ask you to go to use the proper channels, not everyone here wants to see US news everywhere.
It’d be different if the instance was actually crowded and overrun, but it isn’t. The instance gets like 20 posts on a good day.
How is the American presidential choice of picking 80 year old sociopath Donald Trump not a thought provoking issue?
But sure. Let’s focus on why Bananas are yellow.
I just created two posts over there, one over the likelihood of project 2025 to happen, and the other one about people actually considering leaving the USA. Feel free to join the discussion
upset you can’t talk about US politics everywhere in the platform
I’m upset that a moderator believes that banning the discussion of a major national / international event is healthy for the community. I could understand that for a niche community like Music but not one of the most popular general purpose ones. There’s no reason this should be banned other than a personal preference. This informs me that the moderators of this community are not interested in an open platform for genuine discussion.
I’m not from the US and my Lemmy feed has been absolutely FLOODED with US political news for MONTHS. Yesterday’s vote was the bushel that broke the camel’s back, and I definitely understand non-political communities not wanting to be even more flooded with US politics than they already are.
Go complain about your broken country in politics-oriented communities, please, and let us talk about other, less despair-inducing subjects.
Remember your words when Netanyahu bombs Gaza and people want to ask the community about it.
Just because YOU don’t want to hear about something doesn’t mean en entire community should BAN discussion of it. It’s absolutely bonkers that anyone can rationalize this position.
That’s not US politics. And the rule is temporary; the goal is just to get a breather after a months-long marathon of hearing about nothing else on Lemmy.
Because you can go to literally any instance and create a community just for political drivel or even just go to the hundreds of other communities already dedicated to exactly that.
Most impactful event of the decade. This reaches far beyond the US.
Feel free to discuss it on !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world https://lemmy.world/c/politicaldiscussion
By giving people the opportunity to host their own instances and create their own communities with rules they like. This however does not mean that everything should be allowed everywhere. Actually this means that everywhere you go people make their own rules and if you dont like them, go somewhere else or create your own community.
This however is the main problem of social media in general. It creates circles of like-minded people where it is really easy to reject “other” thoughts and accept “our” ideas without much questioning. This is less a problem for people who are trained in critical thinking, but might be dangerous for more unstable people.
I’m just saying that a mix of different views is always good to some degree. Whether/how this should be done on Lemmy is a different thing.
Absolutely. If this rule was a permanent rule I don’t think so many people would defend it. However from experience (reddit for example) I think many people know that US politics has the ability to claim and overrun just about every space on the “western” internet. This is not something that really creates value for many people especially those that don’t live in the US and I think this ruling is trying to prevent that.
Ridiculous copy/paste reply. You’re not making a good case for people leaving corporate media for Lemmy. You’re encouraging them to stay where they are.
What’s wrong about it though? The freedom lies in the ability to create your own community that is not regulated by one company/organisation owning the platform. You can go to the place where you agree with the rules and you don’t have to live under the rules of someone you don’t like.
They’re just butthurt that they’re not being allowed to spew their hot takes all over this community as a captive audience that isn’t interested.
Nobody was doing that here, though. Have you even seen this community? It’s super inactive to begin with.
What’s wrong is fracturing. Lemmy is not so massive that it can sustain niche communities for every little topic.
I wouldn’t consider US politics a small topic, especially on Lemmy
It’s not a small topic, it’s a small community to set up all these tiny communities.
Community is what we called subs on the other site.
How are political communities tiny when they are 2 of the 6 most active communities on Lemmy?
To be honest, the issue is mostly about !politics@lemmy.world banning self posts (and thus people having to find alternatives such as !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world ) rather than the mods of !asklemmy@lemmy.world
Not every sub has to revolve around US elections all day/weeks/months long. That has nothing to do with corporate media.
If some other country had a historic election, I would HOPE to see open dialog spread in places like this for people to express themselves. Why ban an internationally relevant discussion when people have the choice to be members of the community. How about - if you don’t like it, you can leave.
But there are places for the discussion to be made. Lemmy as a whole did not ban the elections discussion, just this one specific sub. In fact, you’ll see basically every single sub of Lemmy discussing it.
This is a temporary rule for 1 single community.
100% agree.
The moderation is completely out of hand. Instead of being happy we have a platform where we can discuss things outside of big tech platforms, we have people who think moderation is more important than letting people express what is on their mind, specially on this day.
Wish I could make the mods be a bit mature here, but probably not.
Whats next, banning people for discussing moderation? I would not be surprised at this point.
I’ve been here from the start so I’m just angry to see this kind of thing here. Whoever mod who did this should look in the mirror and think “is my behavior a plus or a minus for the platform”.
Mods are people of the community too. If you don’t like them, you can make your own community.
That’s a bad take. The mods made the choice to moderate a general-purpose community in the first place. If they want a more narrowly-focused community, they should make one.
Because we’re glad it is finally over after having deal with your election bullshit for the last half year? We made contingency plans for a trump win, so we acknowledged his win this morning, hope the planning is sufficient, and finally move on to something else.
No kidding.
You can literally go anywhere to see your dumbass yank circus. Leave me alone.
Our circus is going to fuck Europe over.
… You know you can just create a community and post stuff there, right?
Would it be possible to have a single mega thread for all US politics questions?
There are alot of worried, scared people with alot of questions. Why not have a place for it, keeping the rest out of the community.
I get it, but realistically there’s only like 20 posts a day left in here. Nothing is really getting overrun.
10 yesterday. We are too small for temp rules.
This is, wow. Just. Wow.
Thanks, other communities like !nostupidquestions@lemmy.world don’t have such rules, the community is overriden with questions about US politics
I get that it’s annoying, but we’re sad, and angry, and scared, and we don’t know where to go. Maybe someone will make us a community called “Now what?” where we can cry, shout, wallow a bit, and then make a plan for survival.
Two posts for you
Yeah I think both are valid tbh. I get that a lot of people don’t want to hear and and I get that a lot of people are upset. How do you compromise and help with both?
Easy, don’t make rules banning the subjects people want to talk about. Are we so concerned about people’s thumbs we can ask them to just scroll past content that doesn’t interest them but suits the theme of the community?
!politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world seems good as it allows self-posts
!politics@lemmy.world for news
Be the change you want to see then. You can make that community. I mean this in a supportive way. Go for it!
!politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world seems good as it allows self-posts
!politics@lemmy.world for news
I appreciate the confidence and encouragement, but I’m completely unqualified. I’m likely the least techie lemmy user. If there were tech levels, I would in the ‘I can set up a printer about 60% of the time’ category.
If you remind me later - I have to get ready for work soon - I’ll help you if you want. Its fairly easy. Easier than a printer, so you’re already qualified lol
Sure, but… is “too much discussion” really a problem that Lemmy has? This is kind of a threatening time for some of us, especially if we don’t have a lot of friends irl.
“Too much off topic discussion or discussion in one topic that stifles other conversations”
Better?
What conversations, specifically, are being stifled or overlooked due to US politics? The comm isn’t very active.
Any meme community. Easy example. Are you even trying?
What conversations, specifically
Lol, okay, very specific. I’m also talking about this community, where this rule was made despite there being basically 1 post per hour.
Name a single election topic you know about that’s not US. I’ll wait.
We just had probably the most consequential election of our life and you want to ban discussion? Jeezus.
Not ban, move
It’s not a book ban, the books just have to be approved before they can be brought in, and they haven’t been approved, nor will they be.
It’s not a book ban, it’s one particular bookstore stopped distribution of that book. The bookstore next to it prominently advertises that it sells that book.
This is an ask community, not a politics community. Not everything revolves around America
… And now you can’t ask anything about politics. There’s was doubtless going to be political questions to ask, and politic adjacent (where do I move) that will all be removed.
And you can’t even ask about effects on the world either! Gaza, Ukraine, NATO, trade, tariffs, etc. Are those going to be removed? All valid questions, but sounds political to me.
Like way to shut down shit tons of conversation.
THIS ISN’T A DISCUSSION COMMUNITY! IT’S SUPPOSED TO BE OPEN ENDED QUESTIONS. MOST POLITICAL DISCUSSIONS AREN’T OPEN ENDED.
Seriously? You’re this pedantic on the word discussion? Ok I will amend my first comment to:
We just had probably the most consequential election of our life and you want to ban
discussionquestions and the resulting discussion in the comments?Jeez all over again.
Most questions are “How screwed are we?, How did we fuck up this bad? Why are the Republicans so dumb?”. Like, these aren’t the types of questions this community was meant for bruv. And don’t act like you don’t know that.
Then you make a rule “no low effort political questions”.
How about none at all. Go to !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world if you can’t help yourself.
It isn’t called ‘ask lemmy about anything other than politics’.
How does that disqualify US political questions from being posted here, then?
POST IT IN ANOTHER FUCKING COMMUNITY! IF THERE ISN’T ONE, THEN BE PROACTIVE AND CREATE ONE.
Not American, but can’t we let the country with the highest user count have one day to process this and wonder about the consequences? Even I need time and have questions lol. The US and Canada have a very, uh, close relationship, so this affects me too.
Feel free to ask on !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world
I came here since I was fed up with the politics on Reddit.
I was pretty disappointed when I saw the same thing happening here. So thanks!
We get 10ish posts here a day… I guess if you want less activity here good job you win. I hate these temp rules in communities.
I only see one thread in the modlog too. Seems kinda weird.
Thank you! Could this be permanent? People can use an AskLemmyPolitics community if they really need to.
That or maybe politics Friday when those posts are allowed?
!politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world seems good as it allows self-posts
!politics@lemmy.world for news
Can we still post questions about politics when it comes to moving outside the united states?
Of course not! That would contribute to the unmanageable stream of of 8-10 posts a day!!!
Sorry, was this sarcasm? My autistic ass sometimes can’t tell.
Yeah, but I was just whining, it wasn’t even a good joke. 🤷♂️
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Lemmy World mods doing something good for once.
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Doubling down on the censorship of inconvenient truths will surely help after your whole instance demonstrated the folly in censoring inconvenient truths. /s
Remember: if you think you have to censor the truth about your supposed left wing candidate of choice, they’re probably NOT actually very leftist at all and you’re doing fascist shit directly for a fascist.
If you refuse to allow people to speak the truth, you’re not even doing a decent job, pretending to be one of the “ good guys”.
You have assumed the reason for the rule is censorship. I think incorrectly.
It would add some clarity if the post included a justification for censorship to avoid speculation
It’s not inconvenient truth, it’s white noise for the rest of the world
White noise that sends missiles and bombs to kill millions around the world. It’s very dangerous white noise is it not?
If the rest of the world is educated on our sham political system then maybe people like you can educate the identity politics dupes that I have to be censored by when I point to rampant corporatism in an impotent attempt to wriggle my way out of this wage slave trap.
For example, here’s an image I love to point to that shows why the US is so stupidly tribalist:
It shows what needs to be done to try and fix this shithole country.
The rest of the world is already overeducated on US politics. I don’t know the electoral system of my neighboring countries even though that’s just as important, if not more. But US politics is shoved down everyone’s throats. Too much! Handle your internal shit internally and don’t spill the sewage all over the internet.
