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I don’t mean this in a horrible way, but a lot of people on here are extremely entitled when it comes to immigration.The US is an incredibly hard place to move to, even if you are a skilled worker. While it often is easier to move into Europe or Canada, it’s not a given that you can just walk into any of these countries and expect to live there. Immigration is hard!
Yes. As someone who’s emigrated and researched it I can say many desirable countries are more difficult to get in to than the US.
American’s attitude that they can just “leave” with a passport and a backpack is just another form of American exceptionalism.
I looked into it, they don’t really want you unless your rich.
We’ll take doctors and nurses no problem. And funny, I expect a bunch of American doctors are likely to want to take their practice elsewhere in the near future
Any country immigration program wants rich or/and skilled or/and very highly educated people, and i didn’t even started about USA immigration programs, they are in another league entirely, you can’t just immigrate into USA even if you are one of the aforementioned categories
Most Americans wouldn’t pass an US immigration test.
Most Canadians wouldn’t pass a Canadian immigration test.
Correct. Canada and Mexico BOTH have “closed” borders and don’t just accept immigrants. In Mexico you cannot get citizenship and cannot own property. Canada actively complains to our sheriffs on the northern border for letting people go over to the north.
I did that when Trump won the first time.
It’s not easy to emigrate there with the way their system is set up. If you’re older and poor, nope. If you’re older and middle class, nope. That points system and Canadian first job market will make it very hard to move there.
If you’re rich, yup easy as pie but then again, if you’re rich, why would you leave this grifter’s paradise?
I did try because honestly I loss a lot of faith in America when that Nazi won the first time and I basically got nowhere even though I’m in tech.
Canada is no different than most other developed nations in their immigration requirements.
I’m not saying that other nations don’t have a stringent immigration system, I’m simply pointing out that all of these first time searchers are going to be in for a rude awakening.
Exactly. People from the US are always surprised they are not a default privileged class all over the world.
Yes. I try to educate them when I see this particular form of American exceptionalism. They think that for the price of a plane ticket they will get a Fantasy Island welcome with Mr Roark and a harem of women waiting to wipe their ass with silk.
Once the US backs out of NATO I’m sure the prospect of living here won’t be as enticing.
Canada is still well protected, unlike rest of Europe which has a land border with Russia. Post Ukraine, it’s the turn of ex Soviet states (i.e. Lithuania, etc) to start googling where to move?
The Artic boarder has been being disputed with Russia for awhile now, once NATO loses its strongest backing, Russia is going to be getting closer to there neighbours in the north.
Can we see the time scale greater than 2 days?
Canada has a high likelihood of electing its own conservative government next year…
Having Trump getting elected down south might help as people will realize that it’s not a fucking joke and strategic voting is necessary.
Conservatives are winning next time around in Canada. It’s set in stone at this point.
Watch out, america doesn’t send their best. They are undereducated rapists. Some of them might be good people, who knows.
Americans don’t realize we have our own lil JD primed and ready to take over here as well, funded and helped by Republican strategists and think tanks oh boy.
I suspect you’re joking. But most developed countries wont accept anyone with a criminal record.
Wall streat is also going up… For me, as a European with ETFs, it feels like I’ll now benefit from the fact that Americans voted for self-exploitation… And that feels kind of weird…
Honestly the jump in the etfs is kind of crazy. I expected a rebound from the recent dip but not like that
That would require money, which most of the working class does not have.
The people spewing this rhetoric are those higher up the food chain; moving out of the US was also said in 2016 and 2020.
Edit: more info
TIL
But what does it take to move to Canada? Is it even possible for Americans? And how difficult would it be? In short, it’s not an easy journey, but it can be done.
To gain permanent residency and, eventually, citizenship, the process is complicated. You must be 18 years old. Then, you can apply several different ways — via specific provinces, via a special entrepreneur route, with help from a family member or spouse already living in Canada or through Québec, which has special immigration requirements, Business Insider reported.
The more skills you have, including fluency in English and French, the higher you’ll “score” on applications, making you all the more likely to gain residency.
Skilled workers are able to apply for residency via a fast track, called the Express Entry system. Under that, skilled workers are transitioned into new roles in the country and given scores based on their talents and job prospects when they apply that then contribute to where they’re placed and if they’re placed. Those with top scores are given permanent residency on a Canadian work visa.
Once a permanent residence, you’re entitled to healthcare coverage and are able to work, study and travel anywhere in the country. But, you can’t vote, run for office or hold certain jobs with top security clearances.
Permanent residents could lose their status if they aren’t in Canada for at least 730 of the days during the first five years of their tenure, and to continue it after five years, they must meet that requirement and then declare their intent to stay Canadian. The only exception is for Crown servants or their families working on behalf of Canada abroad.
Those requirements must be met plus some to become a citizen. Permanent residents have to be physically present in Canada for at least 1,095 days in the first five years of their permanent residency — more specifically before the date their applications are signed. Consistency is key — inconsistency in living and simply being in Canada can be a red flag to immigration officers reviewing citizenship applications.
Income tax filings have to be sent for three years of that five-year period leading up to the date of the application signing, which is to show the Canadian authorities that the individual’s job is legit. You must also speak English or French, not necessarily fluently, but you have to be able to prove that you can make small talk in one of those languages, including giving directions and using basic grammar and being able to describe yourself.
A general knowledge of Canada is also required, including history, values and other institutions and symbols of Canada. The test is written but can be delivered orally.
Even then, there are a number of reasons why an application can be denied despite meeting the aforementioned requirements. Any crimes committed within four years of the application submission are likely to disqualify a prospective citizen.
X users flocked to the social media platform, which is owned by Elon Musk, to vent their frustrations and discuss their plans. Many joked about moving to Canada amid the results, like user @desjjong, who wrote, Chat if yall fumble this country’s election im moving to Canada or sum s—."[1]
This is a typical process similar to other countries as well.
tbh it’s much more difficult to migrate legally to the US
True!
I wonder if the numbers will have an impactful change when comparing the people that said they would move out of the U.S. due to 2016/2020/2024.
I am losing my fucking mind and my misanthropy is exploding ngl
It’s truly awful. I can’t look anyone in their eyes. All I can think about are how many of them voted my rights away by electing Trump again. I’ve never felt so isolated and desperate. I’m in a red state that outvoted Democrats 2:1, so it’s extra bad.
I’m feeling like I never want to participate in community things around here ever again. No handing out candy, no helping neighbors shovel their snow, no making friends without asking who they fucking voted for. Hell, I don’t even want to travel to see my R-voter relatives for the holidays. I’m putting all visits on hold, which is gonna really piss them of, because this is the first grandkid’s (our son) first holidays.
To be honest, I’m feeling sick for even choosing to have him despite my better judgment, which is the worst feeling to have while looking at your baby. It was in a period of hope that maybe we’d be able to overcome that orange fucker’s influence, but now look where we are. I feel like I’ve sentenced him to a fate worse than death to have brought him into this world at this time in this country. Especially with the climate certainly being extra fucked now.
FUCK THIS.
Life here is shit but welcome
Too cold
