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  • Alright we’re done. You can’t even keep your own shit straight.

    In 1945, the soviets installed a friendly communist government in Poland

    So not a country with it’s own freedom at all then. I thought you said they were free. Imagine telling a country it’s free when the USA installs whatever government it chooses.

    I’m aware of the Katyn massacre and the purges of anticommunists in the USSR on a widespread level

    Man oh man. I’m so glad that the Katyn massacre affected other countries other than Poland! Feel free to tell the class how this wasn’t “particularly against Poland”.

    For those who don’t know…

    The Katyn massacre was a series of mass executions of nearly 22,000 defenceless Polish military and police officers, border guards, and intelligentsia prisoners of war carried out by the Soviet Union, specifically the NKVD, at Stalin’s order in April and May 1940.

    So basically the death count of Palestine right now… which has been labeled a genocide by the UN and multiple other parties. This is JUST that one event. Not including the USSR’s “anticommunist purge”. Which is estimated to have killed more than 100,000 Poles and Deported Millions more (most of them likely dying as population of Siberia and other places they were sent to didn’t see a matching population boost).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_repressions_of_Polish_citizens_(1939–1946)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repatriation_of_Poles_(1944–1946)

    Approximately 250,000 Polish prisoners of war were captured by the USSR during and after the invasion of Poland.

    The Soviet forces murdered almost all captured officers, and sent numerous ordinary soldiers to the Soviet Gulag.

    In total, the Soviets killed tens of thousands of Polish prisoners of war.

    The Soviet NKVD executed about 65,000 imprisoned Poles after being subjected to show trials.

    Approximately 100,000 Polish citizens were arrested during the two years of Soviet occupation.

    the Soviets deported a total of more than 1,200,000 Poles in four waves of mass deportations from the Soviet-occupied Polish territories.

    with more than 220,000 people sent primarily to far north and east Russia, including Siberia and Khabarovsk Krai. The second wave of 13 April 1940, consisted of 320,000 people sent primarily to Kazakhstan. The third wave of June–July 1940 totaled more than 240,000. The fourth and final wave occurred in June 1941, deporting 300,000.

    rounded up by order of Lavrentiy Beria of the NKVD and deported to Siberia and various gulags in the Soviet Union reached 50,000 in 1945 alone.

    According to official data, during the state-controlled expulsion between 1945 and 1946, roughly 1,167,000 Poles left the westernmost republics of the Soviet Union, less than 50% of those who registered for population transfer. Another major ethnic Polish transfer took place after Stalin’s death, in 1955–1959.

    Oh and before you say something really fucking stupid…like “Poland wanted to be soviet controlled”.

    The Poles and the Soviets re-established diplomatic relations in 1941, following the Sikorski-Mayski Agreement; but the Soviets broke them off again in 1943 after the Polish government demanded an independent examination of the recently discovered Katyn burial pits.The Soviets lobbied the Western Allies to recognize the pro-Soviet Polish puppet government of Wanda Wasilewska in Moscow.

    Why would they want to be Soviet controlled when they specifically broke ties with Russia over the Katyn massacre?

    Funny how the purported opinion of polish citizens about Russia isn’t affected by propaganda, but the french polls are somehow.

    No it’s not funny at all. It’s expected that normal people wouldn’t know about every military operation that occurred during WW2. Specifically the US landing at Normandy and other similar operations. When I talk about the opinion of my family it’s first hand experience of how they lived. There’s a distinct difference in how you would expect a person to know about the events.

    And before you comment again…

    Fucking 6 million Poles died in WW2. 1/6th of that was Russia.

    Andrzej Paczkowski puts the number of Polish deaths due to Soviet repression at 90,000–100,000 of the 1.0 million persons deported and 30,000 executed by the Soviets.[40]

    According to Zbigniew S. Siemaszko the total of those deported was 1,646,000 of whom 1,450,000 were residents and refugees (excluding POWs).[41]

    According to Franciszek Proch the total of those deported was 1,800,000 of whom 1,050,000 perished.[42]

    Millions of poles died to Soviet hands. Mostly on foreign soil that they were forced to. Imagine causing 1/6th of the total losses of a war and then claiming that the Soviets were a godsend!. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_Poland

    In 1989, the Soviet Union under the leadership of Mikhail Gorbachev apologized for its crimes against Poland.

    But nah! Totally not Genocide at all! And Russia hasn’t even owned up to some extent that they did it! I’m sorry, you’re fucking wrong and this conversation is done.




  • Saik0@lemmy.saik0.comtoLemmy Shitpost@lemmy.worldCasual reminder
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    but you can’t make the distinction between the Russian governments at different times and the nation as a whole.
    

    Nope, I can make that distinction. The difference here is that both in the past and present they’re monsters.

    Nope again… Here’s the real context. We were talking about Russian governments. I stated that I didn’t need to make a distrinction, as it was clear that I was talking about the Russian government both past and present as I then outlined several issues that the government is the only actor in, not the people themselves.

    Try again.

    not legitimate and credible analysis of history and societies.

    And yet you’ve failed to address ANY concern I’ve brought up. Conveniently ignoring every premise I’ve brought up to counter your bullshit.

    Again, as I said, impossible to discuss with most Polish people, you’re not arguing from reason but from nationalism and racism. Good night, and good luck

    Uh huh… That’s absurdly funny as I’m actually a dual citizen. I’ve made no assumptions about you or your statuses, and yet you’ve made plenty about mine. But somehow I’m nationalist and racist. Look in the mirror. All you’ve done is attributed nonsense to me based on limited information, classical “racism”.

    Lets simplify this. Answer either one of these items… Remember both are cited questions.

    So in 1945… what happened to Poland… since they legally succeeded from the USSR they were a free country again right?

    1. How is your graph relevant or meaningful?

    So actually it looks like Russia propaganda in the 1940s thanks to De Gualle’s personal opinions on the matter.

    Edit: Keep in mind I even took the BEST of your comments… You seem to be under some belief that the USSR never committed atrocities and genocide levels of damage to Poland. You’re already wrong.


  • So basically, your whole argument is, “the graph is kinda sus and I don’t trust the source, probably russian propaganda, I hate Russia and I hate Nazis”. Not the strongest rebuttal in my opinion.

    No… and not even close. The graph led me to the study which has obvious flaws… But even IGNORING Those flaws… they themselves put up an argument of why the sentiment could have been this way… and it was because of the French leadership.

    but you can’t make the distinction between the Russian governments at different times and the nation as a whole.

    Nope, I can make that distinction. The difference here is that both in the past and present they’re monsters. During Communism they shit on Poland, and now they threaten Ukraine… our neighbors. I don’t NEED to make the distinction because it’s both cases. Where as with Gemany I have to make the distinction as they’re not currently ruled by the Nazi party.

    Suddenly you only go as far back as WW2

    No… That’s the context of this thread. I kept with the context. The fact that you have to keep shifting goal-posts and cannot continue the discussion under the same pretenses is a huge red flag.

    Never mind that the Bolsheviks granted Poland the legal right to secede in 1917 immediately after the October revolution

    So in 1945… what happened to Poland… since they legally succeeded from the USSR they were a free country again right? https://archive.org/details/polandsholocaust00piot/page/88/mode/2up Or did Russia actually completely fuck Poland (again) by undermining it’s legitimacy? Removing all previous influences and pulled them into the Soviet Union. Going so far as to kill thousands for no fucking reason other than they weren’t communist.

    It’s somehow all the fault of Russians after all, isn’t it?

    Nah, that just historic revisionism that pro-Russian people spout all the time. You seem to love changing time-frames all the time. So here… let’s end this stupidity.

    Which time do you want to talk about how Russia tried to fuck Poland? I’ve traced my roots back to the 1500s… I can possibly talk about a number of these wars.

    But it’s a general trend that Russia goes out of it’s way to Fuck the Polish people. Yet somehow this is Russophobia! Yeah get out of here.



  • Interesting. Look’s like the “old.reddit” plugin breaks that link. Weird that they have to source a reddit thread rather than the actual study. Red flag for sure that they’re full of shit. https://www.ifop.com/publication/la-nation-qui-a-le-plus-contribue-a-la-defaite-de-lallemagne/ Now is that graph valid… well looking at the “study report”… It’s like 3 pages of content that doesn’t actually outline much of anything and conflates with itself. The report says it was 1200 people 18 and older… the website says sample size of 995 people. The study report says 1200 people sample for the 2015 figures, except it was actually taken in may 2014. And no figures about how many people in the previous years. So I would worry about how “valid” this is to begin with. But let’s look at the content on the original page.

    The study even cites the reason this “perception” could have been a thing… (translated, possibly poorly. Check yourself! But my high school french skills only go so far).

    Virginie Sansico, a historian specializing in World War II, sees these results as a certain logic: “Under De Gaulle, who was anti-Atlanticist, one was not quick to maintain the memory of the Landing. Moreover, the Communist Party has long helped to value the Soviets, when it had a strong influence. The first State-backed landing commemorations took place only in 1984, organized by Mitterrand: they mark a break in public opinion.”
    “In Western Europe, the Allied Landing was crucial, but in the eastern countries, Stalin’s army still played a great deal behind.”

    So actually it looks like Russia propaganda in the 1940s thanks to De Gualle’s personal opinions on the matter.

    So I’m going to go with, not only does that graph itself mean nothing in this conversation, but the story behind it actually damns the argument they’re trying to make, especially since the matter is well known https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01402390.2016.1220367.


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    Ah yes I forget, my family’s lived experience isn’t real because some jerkwad on lemmy said so. The source of a removed comment on reddit proved otherwise! You’ve converted me, the stories, written history, oral stories that I’ve recorded for my own records/kids/history must all be wrong. Literal hours of first hand accounts and hundreds of pages of documented familial history must be tainted and not an accurate account of the glorious USSR reign. Fuck… I better delete my grandfathers phone number. It must be getting answered by some deepfake AI voice…








  • Do you think a house gets sold every day,

    Please point me to where I said “every day”. Pretty sure I said “less than 1 a month”. Far from “every day”.


    or that everyone ends up buying?

    Uh…

    They probably had 50 other clients also during that time. My point with that statement was originally that the “hours of work” you think they did for you… They weren’t working just for you. And the one sale that took you months… They likely had several other sales in that same period of time. Agents that I’ve worked with in the past were working with upwards of 20-30 showings at any given week. If only 1% of that yields a sale then it’s about (gasp) ~1 sale a month! [52*~25*.01=13]


    Or that they even get that $15k as take home?

    Never said take home either. But if I make 1 sale a month… and I get 15k out of that sale… and after everything is done, walk away with HALF… 7.5*12 = 90k… That’s STILL MORE THAN MOST PEOPLE. My point has literally not even close to changed.


    On average, most agents are making as little as $60k/yr and as high as $100k/year, region dependant.

    And? If your pulling those numbers from BLS or similar sources… You’re missing the fact that all of these realtors work under LLCs and that the 60-100k is take home. Which ignores that the LLC owns the car they drive, the cell they use, the miles they drive, etc… My own LLC does the same thing. I take home 80k, my company pulls in 160k, but a good chunk goes to operating costs and the rest sits in the company to grow it(or if contracts dry up, the continue operating until I can obtain new ones). They’re doing the same shit. They have access to the added funds.


    Above that $100k mark is the top quartile, and above $130k-ish is going to be the top 10%.

    Duh? Those that make more than one sale a month! Almost like I already addressed this.


    It’s not as lucrative as you think it is.

    It’s exactly as lucrative as I think it is. And all your “Arguments” to change my opinion fall flat at best. Show me realtors who only make 1% or less per home they sell (keep in mind that this is still “JUST” $4,951 per home on average) and I’ll shut the fuck up. Until then you’re wrong. And if you’re going to tell me that I’ve said something I didn’t say again… I’m just going to block you.

    And BTW…

    https://www.homelight.com/blog/how-many-homes-does-a-realtor-sell-a-year/

    According to NAR, Realtors completed a median of 12 residential “transaction sides” in 2022. Keep in mind that transaction sides are not a strict measure of homes sold. An agent earns a transaction side when they help either a buyer or a seller close a sale.

    So my “One sale a month” was dead on accurate.

    And it also turns out in that same link… the BLS data would be severely tainted by one simple fact…

    Part-timers and hobbyists sell fewer homes
    Compared to the high flying agents on reality TV shows, it might surprise you to learn that Realtors worked a median 30 hours per week in 2022, according to the NAR, and made a median gross income of $56,400. However, these figures also account for Realtors who don’t pursue real estate as a full-time job.


  • The average home price in the United States was $495,100 in the second quarter of 2023

    3% (as customary is 6%, split evenly to each realtor) of 485100 is about 15k

    Why? Mine did a shit ton of work for me and fought the sellers to get them to do the shit the appraiser wanted done.

    So a few hours of emails and phone calls is somehow $15k worth of work?

    As well as working for almost a year looking at different houses before we finally found the right one

    They probably had 50 other clients also during that time. Some of them pan out and is the 15k payday. Ultimately they only need to sell (or buy) like 10 houses a year to make a better living than you likely have. Less than 1 a month.





  • Saik0@lemmy.saik0.comtoLemmy Shitpost@lemmy.worldIroning
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    Nothing about their comment outlined that they didn’t know how to use it. But that they never did use it.

    Nothing about their comment eludes to any fact that they’re embarrassed at all. They posted it publicly and directly with not reservation which is the opposite of “embarrassed”.

    They didn’t blame anyone for anything related to the iron itself. But for shallow intentions if they care at all about the clothes that they wear. Which I can understand and agree with to some extent.

    You on the other hand… You’re a jackass. Lots of insinuations, lots of assumptions. Just to put down some random person on the internet for not wanting a fucking iron that probably was the 20$ special at wally world.