• Tiefling IRL@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Probably. I’ve lost all faith in this country. If not through election, I expect SCROTUS to hand it to him.

    Either way I expect him to lose the popular

  • Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Not an American so my opinion here is worth approximately fuck all, but I doubt it tbh. Donald is an unlikeable arsehole well past his prime, and there’s still a lot of energy on the other side in spite of the DNC campaign team’s hardest efforts to clutch defeat from the jaws of victory.

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    14 hours ago

    Trump supporters meanwhile must create bullshit versions of their cartoon messiah. People leave his rallies when he launches into his interminable babbling speeches, but that doesn’t matter — Trump the man is incidental. It’s Trump the cartoon they love.

    No notes. On point. It’s why I fully believe that when Trump dies, a significant portion of his followers will simply choose… not to believe it. There will be Trump sightings for decades, like with Elvis.

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    No. He’s going to pretend to win and hope that his minions start a revolution for him, but they won’t, and as in 2020 he will lose. Then he’ll spend the rest of his pathetic-ass life in court.

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    It’s unlikely that he’ll win, but the potential is still there and he’s going to say he won or was cheated regardless of the outcome.

    He won in 2016 and still insists cheating kept him from winning the popular vote as well.

  • P_P@lemm.ee
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    No, he’s not going to win. Kamala will win the popular vote by a significant margin and will win comfortably in the EC, +/- 25 electoral college votes.

    The problem will be people are going to die tomorrow and we’ll have to wait to see if the coup fails again.

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      Not an American, so maybe I don’t know what I am talking about (although I have lived/worked/studied in US + Canada for a decade).

      I won’t speculate on who will win or not. But as a foreigner who has lived in the US, the impression I get is that American society is arguably not prepared to fight for it’s freedoms. There also don’t seem to be any institutions (political, social, cultural) that can create a situation where the current elite’s de facto hold on power becomes unsustainable and they start feeling a personal risk (even on an implicit level - which is arguably more important than explicit actions).

      Paradoxically that can be seen as a good thing; there is enough money to go around where people don’t need to care. That’s actually a decent place to be in (in an abstract sense). But there are also externalities to such a setup; your country’s liberal (not in the American sense) institutions can slowly circle the drain and no one does anything until it’s too late.

      In a hypothetical country a sizeable ethnic minority might be so opposed to a given leader, that a lot of the centrists or people who just don’t care that much start having second thoughts about that leader. Or say the local oligarchs or the judicial elite start wondering if they could get themselves in trouble (real trouble; loss of assets, even personal danger - doesn’t have to be explicit but even a somewhat real possibility) due to the continued support of said leader.

      From my experience, these sort of dynamics simply do not exist in the US. The oligarchs will always have their money protected and their “get out of jail free” cards respected. The judicial system as a whole would never be in a situation where they would largely be considered illegitimate (and seen as treasonous, criminal collaborators).

      And can you honestly imagine any kind of real protest movement in the US. Shutting down of airports and critical transport and communication networks. Direct rejection of central authority in specific regions. Local arrests of oligarch property. Orders for arrests of specific oligarchs in protest regions (with full support of rank and file police officers).

      I am not saying this is good thing, just pointing out that I can’t imagine this happening in the US (I could be wrong).

      So let’s say Harris does win and Trump does a low-key coup with backing from oligarch and judicial elites (the US supreme court is corrupt by global standards). I don’t see anyone fighting back.

      Am I being too pessimistic and jaded in my worldview?

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        A revolution won’t find support from rank and file police, their whole existence is to prevent danger to the power of the state.

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        Am I being too pessimistic and jaded in my worldview?

        As a US citizen: No, not in the least. Most are cowed and comfortable and undereducated.

        There would be pockets of fighting back, but not enough. The cops here nationwide are almost uniformly pro-oligarchy, they know who butters their bread and they like being an unaccountable gang.

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          I generally oppose notions such as “all cops are bad” and I do think they should even command some respect in society (it should go both ways of course). You want the police to be on side of society in a broad sense and for them to be civic minded.

          I wouldn’t say American police are bad (even though I do have stories of their cowboy antics) per se, but I did get the impression that the US police is somewhat subrevient to the oligarchy.

          Having a civic minded police is the best option, but even a self-interested police force can show flexibility and have a indirectly positive influence.

          One hypothetical example would be the police not willing to easily, directly side a group in a given case. Their thinking could be something along the lines “why don’t we sit this out, no point in taking all the risks for some breadcrumbs, when the vast majority of the benefits go to someone else. Let them put their asses on the line and we’ll see how things play out.”

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    the preponderance of phoney Trump depictions — Trump as Rocky Balboa, Trump riding a dinosaur, Trump as an NFL player. Nobody has ever done that with Barack Obama. They love Obama just as he is. Trump supporters meanwhile must create bullshit versions of their cartoon messiah.

    Everything about him is a lie, down to his very existence. Really drives home the point that thin air would be a better president (or perhaps Clint Eastwood’s empty chair).

    Also, kudos on describing the recent orange makeup as giving the appearance of surviving a “booby-trapped papaya”. Great article.

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    One thing that I can predict is that, in the next several days, we’re gonna find out that all of the polls were extremely wrong. Which way? I suspect it will be in Kamala Harris’s favor, but I suppose we’ll just have to wait and see.

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    Thanks for the laugh, I loved this line: “He looks like he’s been bobbing for hummus. They say after a while you get the face you deserve, and Trump’s just desserts appear to have been applied with a trowel.”