Wrong! Here’s the actual guy who killed the most slavs in both centuries:
I thought it was road rage, perhaps a combination thereof
That just makes sure their kids are born stupid. Its a feature not a flaw as far as a dictator is concerned. They want them just smart enough to soak up a bullet.
I was kind of surprised to find out Stalin killed more slavic people than Hitler, since Hitler killed at least 20 million soviets. I looked it up: Apparently Stalin deliberately killed 6 million, which goes up to 9 if you take policies with foreseeable deaths into account. That’s less than 20. Yeah, Stalin was a bad guy, but please don’t do holocaust erasure.
Yeah, top picture should almost definitely be Hitler.
It’s hard to argue that Stalin killed 6 million when scholars disagree on degree of his culpability and intentionality when it comes to the post Russia Civil War restructuring of the empire. But there’s little question about Hitler’s culpability and intentionality when he invaded Slavic lands for comquest, sent death squads to shower villagers with bullets and collect them for drath camps, all while touting racial supremacy of the German over the Slav. People like to count these things like they’re the same, which dictator has a “high score” in killing people.
“Wow, how’d all this Nazi propaganda get in my anti-communism?”
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Yeah guys, it’s definitely worth spreading fascist propaganda to defeat the tankies.
Yeltsin was sponsored by Clinton. Americans did a good-ol’ fascist coup and is now whining the fascists are doing fascists things.
In medias, that is. In their inner soul, they are very happy to see the weapon industry paid tax money to send drones to ukraine.
Biggest economy in the world, they say
Do you mean Clinton, governor of Arkansas or Clinton, first lady of Arkansas?
Yeltsin was sponsored by Clinton
What the fuck are you taking about
… so far. We’ve got 70 odd more years.
So we’re just whitewashing Hitler now. Cool.
Lol, I think the thought of washing Adolfy is causing people to give you downvotes - but now it’s there, the thought lives in peoples minds.
What do you mean?
It’s estimated 27 million Russians died during WW2. OP is saying that number is attributable to Hitler. The best estimate given the revealed USSR archives, emigres, and informants puts deaths directly caused or the result of neglect attributable to Stalin is 6.5 million.
Basically the first half of the meme is anticommunist, misinformation that ignores the deaths caused by fascists.
Hitler killed more slavs and did it more wontanly then Stalin, and probably would’ve killed a lot more if Stalin hadn’t killed so many people to industrialize fast enough to take on Hitler.
Quit Stalin, it’s time to be Putin Tankies in their place!
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It’s fun to dunk on Tankies, but let’s be real.
Hitler killed more Slavs than Stalin. And the Holdomor was a famine not caused by Stalin. Millions were going to die. Stalin chose Ukrainian Slavs to starve instead of Moscow Slavs.
The Sovs literally continued exporting grain during the Holodomor. It was absolutely a choice by Stalin to create starvation conditions.
I already said that. They took Ukrainian grain and shipped it to Moscow.
The 4 million Ukrainian Slavs dead still isn’t greater than the 20 million Slavs killed by Hitler.
They also continued to export grain outside of the union. Which, you know, is actually one of the things a dictatorship could be good for - force food to stay in the country if there’s a scarcity. But they opted not to.
And to add to Stalin’s stupidity here - if soviet leadership hadn’t chosen to do this, they would’ve had a whole lot of extra soldiers to send to the meat grinder in WWII. Hell, maybe the nazis wouldn’t have nearly taken Stalingrad.
I already said that. They took Ukrainian grain and shipped it to Moscow.
You said
And the Holdomor was a famine not caused by Stalin.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1930–1933
The famine affected a large area of eastern Europe, not just Ukraine.
And the Soviets continued exporting grain from the Soviet Union itself, not just Ukraine, during the famine. Enough to feed millions of people. This was a choice made by Stalin.
You are right! I’m am sorry.
I still stand by my statement that Hitler killed more Slavs than Stalin.
Yeah, that’s probably true, unless one wishes to subject a certain percentage of the deaths in WW2 to Stalin’s decisionmaking. That would, by my count, be unfair, even though Stalin’s shares some responsibility for splitting Poland with genocidaires, letting the Nazis sucker-punch the USSR, and then a series of questionable decisions in defense of the Soviet Union. Ultimately, Hitler is the one at primary fault for the those deaths.
You seem soft on forced starvation.
Are you fucking dense?
Hitler killed 20 million Slavs. Stalin killed 4 million Ukrainian Slavs.
Do you think Stalin is worse than Hitler?
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What statistics are you referencing? I’m not doubting you, I’m just curious. Regardless of the answer, if we don’t stand up to Russia, we will be doomed World War statistics. Most of the numbers I’ve found suggest a battle of attrition over supplies, not men. In regards to history, relatively few men have died, but the cost of arms has gone up astronomically. Consumer drones might put that into question eventually. That and Putin. If we’re literally talking about the statistical number of deaths Putin has caused, maybe, MAYBE it’s greater than Stalin, but then we get into the definition of “responsibility.” Okay, I’m doubting you, but I want to be wrong.
The numbers that would put Stalin ahead of Hitler are the ones from fascists that blame Stalin for the deaths in WW2, but it’s also not a complete blowout without them so whatever.
I’m not sure why you’d think Putin could compare to either, ever, but the point is it’s a new millennium so his only real competition is alcohol manufacturing.
Stalin vs Putin, not Hitler.
i mean… that is one of the most volatile regions in the world in the 21st century and it is almost entirely putin causing that. if there’s little competition then it’s because he’s the only major power in the region stuck in last centurie’s mindset and trying to pull the rest of us back. everyone else being better now is a point against putin.
it’s like the rest of the world saw WWII as a lesson on how not to be, and he saw glory.
Fair, but how do we prove that? Again, I agree, I just REALLY want the numbers. I know someone who legitimately supports attacking Ukraine may use the numbers against me in the future. I’d prefer to be more accurate than rely on propaganda.
what numbers? Russia has been the aggressor in nearly every conflict they’ve been involved in. Russia and its puppets are attacking countries around them and no one else in the region is. that’s the closest thing to an actual claim that i made. the rest was just me making assumptions about his mindset.
Sure, but we’re just getting started, the resource wars haven’t even begun in earnest. He simply doesn’t have any good competition for the title of world’s biggest murderous shithead besides Bush Jr and Xi.
