• als@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    28 days ago

    Why call for a ceasefire and simultaneously provide the weapons to continue murdering civilians? Oh because it’s all just for optics.

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      28 days ago

      Why call for a ceasefire and simultaneously provide the weapons to continue murdering civilians?

      I assume it’s to be able to say there’s a large difference between voting Harris and Trump for voters who care about Palestine. Which I imagine is at least part of what you mean by ‘optics’.

      However, if my family were dying in Palestine, I still would not be happy. “We’ll kill them BUT send aid” is not enough of a difference from “We’ll kill them but NOT send aid”.

      Here are thoughts from a Palestinian American: https://alx.lemmy.blahaj.zone/lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/17849964

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      Oh because it’s all just for optics.

      Hey, that’s a highly reductionist take. When did super charging the military industrial complex become “just for optics”?

      Without funneling billions of dollars to corporations like RTX, this would be a very wildly unamerican conflict.

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        28 days ago

        He’s right. Anything short of an arms embargo is just optics. Or did we already forget about the peir and what an absolute performative shitshow that was?

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        Just shy of $18 billion for Israel. Nearly unlimited diplomatic cover and significant patron:client posturing that has Ukraine and Taiwan jealous. US troops, deployed using US weapons, to defend Israel.

        Contrast that to hand wringing about “now that Haniyeh /Nasrallah /Sinwar/ ??? is dead, we need a ceasefire”, the refusal to demand more aid trucks daily and prevent famine, or hollow commitments to a two-state solution, without any action - of course it’s optics.

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        28 days ago

        You can’t help yourself, can you?

        I’m not sure what this comment means. It’s pretty cryptic.

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    28 days ago

    We have a plane highway to get arms to Israel. Talk about a smoke screen here.

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    28 days ago

    We sure could save a lot of money if we weren’t sending weapons to the aggressors just so we can then send aid to the victims.

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    28 days ago

    Interesting way to burn blow up money, sending targets for the Israelis to bomb.

    Maybe we should try to stop the Israelis from their campaign of genocide before trying to do the whole ‘humanitarian aid’ thing?

    Or at least get the Israelis to actually let the aid in?

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    28 days ago

    Cool. Gonna use it as an excuse to re-open the pier to faciltate another massacre and then shut it down again?

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    28 days ago

    Highly doubtful that most if even ANY of it is going to reach the people who need it.

    EXTREMELY likely that they’ll send the fascist apartheid regime weapons totaling at least 20 times as much between now and the end of the year, though.

    Blinken is a disgraceful collaborator and should resign immediately.