• Tudsamfa@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    The left-leaning parties disappointed me with their posters this election. There was 1 that said “Set a mark against fascists” and showed an anti-afd protest, and another with a similar message.

    I know they are the nazi party, I want to know what YOU stand for. I’ll have to guess political scientist found out nobody really changes their mind from a poster, so the only thing they do is remind people of their party that they need to go out and vote.

    If that’s the case, the poster may be better than I give it credit for. Still, doesn’t seem to have worked.

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      5 months ago

      Tbh the cdu had a poster that said “1 reason to vote for us: traffic lights coalition”

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    5 months ago

    Brain drain finally showing itself

    Most of the creative and ambitious people left the GDR when the wall came down.

    I heard a theory recently from someone that was part of the peaceful revolution in Leipzig and now thinks that many people actually didn’t mind the government telling them what to do and then not really having a choice in the matter and being under constant surveillance as long as they had a decent life. And that the protests in hindsight probably were more about them seeing how much better the life in the west was than about the personal and political freedom since the GDR apparently did a pretty good job to get rid of those concepts (at least for many citizens).

    Now those same people are again voting only for their personal gains and not for freedom for everyone to live however they want as that was never in their interest to begin with

  • SpongeBorgCubePants@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    People voted on national issues instead of voting on European issues.

    So tired of everybody using this election for petty protest votes.

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    5 months ago

    Wow, another map where the old GDR borders are easily visible. This time they are voting for Nazis. Horseshoe theory proved correct yet again?

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      5 months ago

      Imo, it moreso proves that poverty causes desperation, desperation causes people to be way more susceptible to political extremism.

      I don’t think this has anything to do with the GDR except for the fact that it left east Germany in poverty.

      • rotkehle@discuss.tchncs.de
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        5 months ago

        if you’re driving through East German cities you know why they’re voting populist right wing parties. there’s no work, poverty and half of the houses are empty because a lot of the people already left.

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          5 months ago

          That’s half the explanation.
          The economic and social decline makes people susceptible to populists.

          But the other half is this:
          They’re not the only populists.
          To vote for outright, obvious Neo-Nazis you also have to ok with Neo-Nazis.

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          5 months ago

          Yeah, but that doesn’t explain it all. Görlitz for example is the county with the highest number of votes for the AfD. But the county is doing really well, there’s a big Siemens plant there.

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      5 months ago

      The horseshoe theory is still bullshit, as is assuming GDR was a “far left” opposite to far right AfD nowadays.

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        5 months ago

        as is assuming GDR was a “far left”

        Communism isn’t far left? TIL

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          5 months ago

          Authoritarian communism has more to do with authoritarian fascism than it does with mainstream leftist ideologies.

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            5 months ago

            How do the workers own the means of production if the state controls everything? Especially a state that only allows certain kind of person into the controlling party. An upper class, you might say.

            Even if they own it, and the state demands a 90% tax on production, what do they really own?

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              You see, the state simply claims to be the workers - or rather their chosen representative.

              Therefore, since the state owns everything, the workers must own everything. The GDR was so far left, they even ensured workers wouldn’t accidentally self-harm their means of production through strikes, how kind of them.

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    5 months ago

    It’s fascinating that the DDR has elected nazis, because over here in Czechia, which was essentially a non-German DDR, the election was won in half by our CDU and in half by our careerist populist party (but not a nazi). It seems to be a specifically East German thing…

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      5 months ago

      Has to do with how people in the east are basically being dragged behind by the west. They are getting paid less, but have to pay the same amount as westerners for electricity, gas, water, internet, and everything else except for rent and sometimes food.

      A lot of the folks I talk to remember how the “west” turned the previously state owned railway company into a private company which caused almost ~75% of the at that point running rail network to be shut down for profit reasons.

      People are upset, nothing is being done, they are being fed propaganda, and the results can be seen as clear as day

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        5 months ago

        How will the far right help with any of that? They’re not known for running public utilities.

        One would think that if that’s your problem you’d vote further left - renationalise public utilities etc.