• Saleh
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    4 hours ago

    Every death is a tragedy, but combatants are “fair game” in an armed conflict. This does not mean to “blame” them for what brought them there.

    And for the Russian conscripts i will still not count them as civilians killed, even though they are also on the short end of Putins madness.

    There is a major difference between Russia and Israel though. The Russian conscripts rarely had a chance to escape Russia. Most Israelis have a second or even third nationality. Their families are there by choice, not by lack of options.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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      4 hours ago

      It wasn’t an armed conflict until they began it on October 7th.

      Whether or not Israel drove them to do it is another issue. I believe that’s what happened. But it doesn’t change the fact that I would not consider conscripts fair game in that situation because the situation itself is not a fair one.

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        3 hours ago

        An armed siege and occupation are armed conflicts.

        Just because there wasn’t active fighting at a time does not change the fact that at least one side established its position by force. To take the example of Crimea. Just because Russia moved in to occupy it quickly and there was little fighting, it is still an armed conflict. If Russia wouldn’t roam Crimea with its army, it wouldn’t hold control of it. The same is true for the siege of Gaza that Israel upheld before reinvading it.

      • cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml
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        2 hours ago

        Of course there was armed conflict or do you think the apartheid and blockade of Gaza was enforced with bubblegum and rainbows?

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            1 hour ago

            You said,

            It wasn’t an armed conflict until they began it on October 7th.

            I disagreed with that assessment. What’s so hard for you to understand?

            • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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              1 hour ago

              There was no fighting going on at the time. It was not an armed conflict at the time. Just because they had an armed conflict at times before that doesn’t mean that was what was happening at that time.

              India and Pakistan have gone to war multiple times. That doesn’t mean they’re always at war.

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                50 minutes ago

                What an absurd comparison. Palestinians in Gaza were under an ongoing military siege by Israel. That looks absolutely nothing like a border between two independent sovereign states. It’s laughable that you would think otherwise.

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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          4 hours ago

          Sorry, I replied to you again without realizing you were the person who tried to lie about me being an Israel supporter. My mistake. I won’t reply again after this.

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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          4 hours ago

          That is a fact. There was no fighting going on at the time. It was not an armed conflict at the time. Just because they had an armed conflict at times before that doesn’t mean that was what was happening at that time.

          India and Pakistan have gone to war multiple times. That doesn’t mean they’re always at war.