I’m glad this fuck is dead but jesus fuck, can we stop killing civilians for nothing?
Lest this be taken the wrong way: Harris 2024, fuck the republican traitor filth.
Just like it would be if Netanyahu was assassinated.
Now that “Justice has been served” I take it that US support for this war will be pulled and the Israelis will pack up and return back across the borders to go home?
We were told he was fortified in a tunnel network surrounded by bodyguards and hostages as human shields, like some terrorist mastermind.
He is killed running alone from one bombed out house to another, by a soldier that didn’t even recognize him.
Not saying he shouldn’t have been killed, but it really shows the false pretenses under which this ‘war’ is being carried out.
He wasn’t alone. He was with several armed men and apparently also with hostages.
The first line of that article is
Without citing a source, Channel 12 reports…
Please try harder. There are people dying because of misinformation.
The IDF said there were no hostages in the building with Sinwar. I see you going around everywhere spreading Israeli propaganda on Lemmy.
Ok, but was any of that know when soldiers opened fire, or was it all established after the event.
When will justice be served for Palestinians?
When they boot Hamas from leading their country into oblivion.
Kind of hard to vote out assholes if they stopped elections in 2006. It’s like if W never left power.
Vote out? More like demolish.
“Stop punshing yourself” the trust fund kid said as it forced the arm into the face of their victim again, while the principal applauds the trust fund kid for his morals.
Yes, Hamas that was elected as a minority party, and took over in a coup before about half of the pre genocide population was even born. The people living in a permanent refugee camp should rise up and destroy the Iranian backed terrorist group. They will accomplish this with all of the supplies that are allowed to come in. I’m sure I just took the bait but I hear actual people make that same argument.
It’s not hamas that’s “leading” their country. It’s zio invaders.
Is it justice if it’s done by an unjust party for unjust reasons?
Like, no mourning for Sinwar here, but fuck, Israel icing him isn’t exactly what I’d be throwing ticker tape in the streets over.
I can’t read the whole article, but maybe she’s seeing this as an opportunity to get Israel to dial the conflict down. Probably naive to think they’ll stop for anything at this stage though, because they’ve shown it was never about the hostages to begin with.
I feel it is more in the lines of ‘Justice is served’ justifying the genocide and continuing support of US if the genocide continues.
Israel knows it is needed by US and Arab countries as an deterrent to Iran. And it is going to press the advantage to the extremes.
I suspect that’s what she thinks she’s doing, but I wish politicians didn’t speak in code. Just say that she expects Israel to reduce the level of conflict now. That way Israel can’t take it as a endorsement of their future actions.
Why would Israel dial down the conflict when they just took out another obstacle in their march to settle all of Gaza and the West Bank and part or all of Lebanon?
Israel didn’t settle Lebanon during their last occupation and they won’t this time either. The West Bank is already a very big headache.
Imagine the privilege of thinking that ethnic cleansing is a “headache”.
It has been an unresolved political issue for decades. Israel doesn’t have a clear strategy for it. Maybe you like quagmire better.
Is that why they’re airing property listings in southern lebanon?
That’s only some extremists, not an official plan.
Yes that is the party line for now, then it will be lebensraum.
How much rebuking has the Israeli government done of these extremists?
Exactly.
Sinwar was seen as a big impediment to any deal. Usually just he would decide to walk away from talks, as opposed to a whole delegation like the other parties. Anyway, after being imprisoned for 20 years, several of them in solitary, and writing a book glorifying martyrdom, it seems that he was fully committed to the long term struggle against the Jew and removing him may help end this genocide.
removing him may help end this genocide.
Genocide ends only in two conditions. Either the population is decimated or the genocide conducting party is no longer in power.
It doesn’t seem likely Netanyahu will be removed in the near future. There is however the other possibility.
That is bullshit. Hamas has repeatedly agreed to the Biden proposal and even offered a ceasefire deal with hostage exchange as early as October 2023.
It was Netanyahu always sabotaging the negotiations. In particular after the Biden plan by rejecting to leave Gaza and bombing tents in Rafah, burning people alive.
Also Sinwar wasn’t even the negotiator. It was Hanyeh, who got assassinated by Israel, while negotiations were running. A clearer sign of not wanting to negotiate does not exist.
I agree netanyahu’s delegation has walked away multiple times but hamas has too. Sinwar was not the negotiator, he was the military commander on the ground so even when the hamas delegation would make progress all decisions on what goes on in Gaza went through him. He wanted a war and was (at least outwardly, judging by his writing) happy to be martyred.
I am not saying Israel is a good or consistent negotiator in this but Sinwar was a terrorist who was keeping hostages as insurance. He decided to do the attack on 10/7. This was a decision he could not get backing for from his benefactors (as far as has been reported.)
Netanyahu knows that the US will not cut off support for them. It’s not even seriously discussed in the MSM. Bibi will continue to massacre the Palestinians until they are all displaced or dead. This is the only way he is staying in power. His alliance depends on settlers and other orthodox. That being said, maybe more western countries start pressuring him, cutting aid, air dropping food or something now that Hamas’ leadership is being degraded.
removing him may help end this genocide.
You see, now that it’s absolutely impossible for him to do anything at all, he may stop doing certain things
That’s the most disgusting, sick and twisted interpretation of justice I can imagine. Monsters and psychopaths the lot of them.
Killing a terrorist leader is not justice? How?
You don’t think harris is a terrorist leader also?
It’s like saying justice was served when Nat Turner was killed for his deadly revolt against slave owners. Justice will be served when the colonization end and israelis leaders who still alive and responsible for atrocities against Palestinians
You’re comparing terrorists with freedom fighters now?
There is no terrorism against the settler-colonial genocide regime. Israel is not better because their violence is more formal and systematic. Resistance by Palestine is valid in any form given it’s position. Whatever worthless criticism you may have of the means of Palestinian resistance should be blamed on the Israeli regime for forcing them to this point.
Reading recommendation: “Wretched of the Earth” by Frantz Fanon
Disgusting to read that…
Resistence against the oppressor is maybe destroying the fence, taking land from the oppressor, shooting rockets on military and state buildings and killing or hurting solidiers.
Setting civilians on fire, making a festival of civilians a massacre and kidnapping over 100 civilians is just T E R R O R I S M.
What about setting civilians on fire, massacring tens of thousands of kids, and kidnapping thousands of people? T E R R O R I S M.
The regime was not attacked on October 7th. Those were innocent people that were taken hostage.
It in no way justifies Israel’s genocide or the apartheid that happened before it, but you’re acting like the hostages were running the government until October 7th.
If someone kills your family and steals your house, is it terrorism to take it back?
Were the people they killed and kidnapped the ones who killed their family and stole their house?
About one third of the Israelis killed and taken hostage on October 7 were active duty IDF soldiers. That doesn’t excuse the terrorist attacks on Civilians but it is important to point out that Israel has a much worse combatant to civilians killed ratio than Hamas or Hezbollah.
That is not fair. “Active duty IDF soldier” is everyone in Israel once they reach a certain age. Even the ultra-orthodox are no longer exempt.
You’re talking about 18-year-olds who were conscripted taking some R&R to go to a music festival.
Again, this doesn’t excuse anything that has happened subsequently or anything Israel did before either, but it’s not like we’re talking senior leadership here.
Soldiers in military bases along the border fence are not taking some R&R going to a music festival.
And if they are armed at the border of a region they siege, being 18 years old is not an excuse not to be considered a soldier.
Some of them were taking R&R, some were along the border fence.
When every single person in your country is required to be a soldier when they turn 18, I don’t think suggesting they’re fair game in a situation like what happened in October 7th.
If they’re actively fighting, that’s a different story. But they weren’t. The people sending them to war should be the targets considering they do not have a choice in the matter.
I assume you don’t blame Russian conscripts for the war in Ukraine despite that also involving genocide.
That is not fair. “Active duty IDF soldier” is everyone in Israel once they reach a certain age.
It’s completely fair to judge a fascist society by their fascism.
Do we excuse the nazis because many were indoctrinated as nazi youths? No of course not. It might give us some understanding and compassion but it’s a completely fair judgement to say it’s a sick society.
How do you know they have been indoctrinated?
That’s like saying Vietnam vets supported that war.
Let me just redirect your whole comment back to:
Resistance by Palestine is valid in any form given it’s position. Whatever worthless criticism you may have of the means of Palestinian resistance should be blamed on the Israeli regime for forcing them to this point.
The oppressed do not have the luxury of precise and swift strikes against their oppressors. We do not get to judge the systematically and brutally disadvantaged Palestine and it’s resistance not being able to capture the core government out from behind one of the most advanced militaries on the planet (backed by one of the others).
All resistance on their part is justified. And insofar as any of those deaths may have been regrettable, they should be held against the settler-colonial regime for forcing this situation into existence.
Israel’s violence against Palestine is enormously unequal, disgustingly normalized, and systematically devastating. This has been going on for decades. To sit there and finger wag them fighting back is arrogant and frankly further enabling the situation. “Oh you deserve liberation and justice but only if you do it the right and proper way!” As if they can face such an overwhelmingly unfair fight as equals.
Palestinian violence is but a reflection of Israeli violence and all fault and consequences from it lay unequivocally at the feet of Israel.
Resistance by Palestine is valid in any form given it’s position.
In any form? So if some Palestinian person went through a maternity ward stomping on babies’ heads as a form of resistance, you’d be okay with that? Really?
That would hardly be different than genocidal war crimes done to Palestinians by the IDF.
Palestinians would almost certainly never make it to the hospital before being gunned down, whereas Israel can march in an army to perpetuate such atrocities with relative ease.
But sure, if such a thing happened you’d not find me condemning it. Israeli colonialism and genocide would be to blame for it. If Israeli violence stopped, so too would Palestinian violence. Israel has the power here unfortunately.
You do realize that, based on what you’ve said so far, you’re also saying that an acceptable resistance to genocide is genocide. I hope you realize that anyway.
Bro, with that attitude “everything is justified against Israel”, it’s guaranteed that the conflict will still exist in 100 years. That’s the right attitude to get as many people as possible killed there.
Because hail Trump I guess
BREAKING NEWS
People disgusted with war aren’t automatically pro-trump.
“or our interests…”
that hegemony talk sure is something.
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