Were talking about m serie, the fps may not be amazing but macos cant run windows games like linux can. When every wwdc apple just shows off some game they paid a metric crap ton to get it ported. Which isnt really gaming, if your selection is like 5 games.
That’s so false… That’s like saying the only games Windows can run is Halo and whatever crap is in the Windows Store. Steam has thousands of out-of-the-box compatible games and Crossover helps cover many other games.
Before I got I rebuild my Linux gaming PC (watercooling shenanigans) I gamed for a solid year on MacOS. I played Baldur’s Gate 3 on release for Windows through Crossover, was on my second play through when official Mac support dropped. I’ve played Civ 5 & 6 with friends. I’ve made many cities in Cities Skylines. I played FF7 Remake again. Even for old 32-bit Windows games like Touhou 6 run with minor tweaking.
Crossover is the commercial version of the code behind proton, developed by the same company. It doesn’t work as well on Mac as on Linux. Since “Like Linux but worse” is exactly the point you’re responding to, so you’re pretty much in agreement with them?
What Steamymoomilk had stated previously is that Linux on Apple Silicon is better than macOS for gaming. But Proton support is not only a very new feature to Asahi Linux but also still has issues.
x86 Linux > macOS (with or without Crossover) > Asahi Linux on Apple Silicon macs (what the previous commenter said was better than macOS).
Unsurprising since Proton is optimized by Valve specifically for playing games. Crossover, Wine, and Whiskey are more general purpose. They will work fine and can be optimized and tweaked, but Proton will work better out of the box.
I guess I didn’t clarify, but there comment from the previous user had stated that on the new M Series chips that running Linux is better for gaming on those devices (ala Asahi Linux).
No doubt Proton on normal x86 Linux PCs is great. My primary desktop and ROG Ally has been painless (aside from some old games that have issues regardless of OS).
But Proton is still buggy on Asahi Linux (support was literally announced a week ago or so). Meanwhile of the games I run on Steam, only a handful needed Crossover or Whiskey for macOS.
I haven’t found anything better than Whiskey. It reminds me of the finnicky Wine days before Proton, but so far the problems I encountered are purely cosmetic. Granted, I only tried pixely indie stuff.
Christ. Fr. I was so excited when the Asahi team started to show off Vulkan games on M1 chips. Once it’s had a bit of time in the oven I’m ripping MacOs out of an, otherwise, wonderful device for what I paid for it.
Updated for 2024 and a post Proton world.
True Statement, The new macs have better gaming support on linux than macOS
Are we talking about the M3 chips? Or the last intel? Because these are not the same.
Were talking about m serie, the fps may not be amazing but macos cant run windows games like linux can. When every wwdc apple just shows off some game they paid a metric crap ton to get it ported. Which isnt really gaming, if your selection is like 5 games.
That’s so false… That’s like saying the only games Windows can run is Halo and whatever crap is in the Windows Store. Steam has thousands of out-of-the-box compatible games and Crossover helps cover many other games.
Before I got I rebuild my Linux gaming PC (watercooling shenanigans) I gamed for a solid year on MacOS. I played Baldur’s Gate 3 on release for Windows through Crossover, was on my second play through when official Mac support dropped. I’ve played Civ 5 & 6 with friends. I’ve made many cities in Cities Skylines. I played FF7 Remake again. Even for old 32-bit Windows games like Touhou 6 run with minor tweaking.
Crossover is the commercial version of the code behind proton, developed by the same company. It doesn’t work as well on Mac as on Linux. Since “Like Linux but worse” is exactly the point you’re responding to, so you’re pretty much in agreement with them?
What Steamymoomilk had stated previously is that Linux on Apple Silicon is better than macOS for gaming. But Proton support is not only a very new feature to Asahi Linux but also still has issues.
x86 Linux > macOS (with or without Crossover) > Asahi Linux on Apple Silicon macs (what the previous commenter said was better than macOS).
Hey, nobody disputes that.
Doesn’t mean macOS has a comparable portfolio of games it runs. Proton just works better than crossover or Whiskey or whatever.
Unsurprising since Proton is optimized by Valve specifically for playing games. Crossover, Wine, and Whiskey are more general purpose. They will work fine and can be optimized and tweaked, but Proton will work better out of the box.
I guess I didn’t clarify, but there comment from the previous user had stated that on the new M Series chips that running Linux is better for gaming on those devices (ala Asahi Linux).
No doubt Proton on normal x86 Linux PCs is great. My primary desktop and ROG Ally has been painless (aside from some old games that have issues regardless of OS).
But Proton is still buggy on Asahi Linux (support was literally announced a week ago or so). Meanwhile of the games I run on Steam, only a handful needed Crossover or Whiskey for macOS.
Try Whisky! It uses Wine and has conversion for the Apple graphics layer. It runs some games you can’t get running otherwise.
I knew booze was the only way to make using a Mac bearable.
It works OK. Steam itself is super sluggish under it.
Native Steam + Proton is just better.
How do you do that on a Mac? I didn’t think it supported the proton layer on other platforms.
I don’t, my personal machine runs Linux
My main is also Linux but my wife has a MacBook she still prefers. Still trying to find a good way for her to run a few games.
I haven’t found anything better than Whiskey. It reminds me of the finnicky Wine days before Proton, but so far the problems I encountered are purely cosmetic. Granted, I only tried pixely indie stuff.
You should probably also update the meme faces to whatever the hell the kids are using these days.
Christ. Fr. I was so excited when the Asahi team started to show off Vulkan games on M1 chips. Once it’s had a bit of time in the oven I’m ripping MacOs out of an, otherwise, wonderful device for what I paid for it.
Even more true
Do Windows 8 RT next!