• circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org
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    Boomers should have thought of the shareholders.

    That is, the kids they fucked over with their bullshit ideas and absolute misunderstanding of the world they created.

    I’d love to be able to speak with my parents again, but (and I never thought I would ever say this, if you had asked me 10 years ago) I need to see some heads popping out of asses.

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    “You should have kids so you’ll have someone who will take care of you when you’re older.”

    Bruh, I’m not subjecting a person to this godforsaken world so I can guilt trip them into babysitting me when I’m old and senile.

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      as someone who’s parents’ retirement plan was that - I absolutely agree. There’s no way anyone should subject their kids to that level of guilt and stress.

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    Aww. Maybe if they didn’t spend their days treating their kids like their bank accounts and actually voted to help them afford things like housing and health care they’d have grandkids.

    Instead they supported ghouls like trump and clinton instead of the guy who wanted to give everybody health care!

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      The wealthier Boomers left behind millions of tiny little ladders specifically for their kids to climb.

      The poorer Boomers died before hitting retirement age, or died in debt, or bankrupted themselves paying for end-of-life health care, or got scammed or otherwise denuded of their accumulated wealth.

      Incidentally, its the wealthier Boomers who continue to set national policy from the board rooms and lobbying offices established by their own parents and grandparents. Meanwhile the poorer and more isolated Boomers are left to drown in their own poverty, ineffectually raging at the collapse of neighborhoods and the destitution of their pension funds and the deterioration of their suburban homes, unless their children and grandchildren are able to help them out at the end of their days.

      Folks like to pretend this is one generation pitted against another. But its selection bias. The only members of the Boomer generation you hear from are the ones that came out on top. The rest have been killed in the wars or poisoned by industrial waste and lead pollution or foreclosed into homelessness to die on the streets or confined to digital communities like Facebook where they’re drowned out by waves of misinformation accounts. Legions of dead Boomers never got to decide how the current generations live. They were burned up and thrown out, just like the current generation of bourgeois GenXers and Millennials and Zoomers plan to do with the rest of us.

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        They all came out on top. Even the poorest boomer right now today living in the street had a better shot at the American dream than all but the most lucky of youth right now.

        Yes some fucked up or got screwed over but as a vast majority even these people supported and continue to support the same people who have put them there in the first place.

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          Even the poorest boomer right now today living in the street had a better shot at the American dream

          Trying to explain to a sharecropper born in 1945 and dead from cholera or smallpox in 1965 that he had just as good a shot at the “American Dream” as someone born after modern sanitation, public education, and highway mass transit was installed in their municipality forty years later.

          But I can’t, because that sharecropper was illiterate and also dead.

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    having a baby costs as much as a decent used car luxury automobile

    that’d do it.

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    Lmfao thanks for ruining our whole society, boomers. Reap what you’ve sowed.

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      Oh they are deep into something, it is just is not as nice smelling as journalism

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      I mean, she’s a boomer, if she said she had I still wouldn’t trust her.

      Boomers: “Reality can be anything I want.”

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      she better stop voting for conservatives

      Democrats have won the popular vote in the last seven of eight elections. If everyone struck this deal, I would expect to see significantly more grandkids than we’re getting.

      But also, states like California and New York and Massachusetts are seeing grandkid-gaps bigger than anything you’ll find in Utah or Ohio or South Carolina. If conservatives are causing the problem, you would expect to see more Gen Alphas in the bluer states, wouldn’t you?

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        The poorer families in those states make do better than poorer families in red states, but not enough to support having kids

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    well, there are just more boomers, and less gen x/millenial people. It should follow that there will be less babies lmao.

    Granted cost of child raising is still likely to be a more influential factor, it’s not the only factor, and we were going to see this anyway so.

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    Maybe they shouldn’t horde and partition their wealth from their children and do everything possible to ensure every penny is spent before death.

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      You’re not wrong, but this is more of a class issue than a generational issue, although in this case they certainly intersect. My boomer parents don’t have any money; they got screwed over by the 1% just like the rest of us.

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    Once again Gen-X is ignored. It’s Gen-X hitting grandparenting age.

    My two kids probably won’t be parents, and I’m ok with that. I want them to be happy more than I want to enjoy grandkids. Whatever they choose, I’ll be happy with.

    I felt pressure from Boomer parents to have kids, and I didn’t want to do the same to my kids. That’s a hard nope.

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      Gen X is normally described as 1965-1980 so 44 to 59 years old.

      Average age of mothers first birth right now is 27. It was around 25 for most of Gen X. So 25 + 27 = 52. Yeah new grandparents are not boomers.

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      Once again Gen-X is ignored.

      I will maintain, as I always do, that getting lumped in with the wrong group and ignored is the most Gen-X thing going right now.

      With that, I conclude: whatever ::eye roll::.

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      maybe if gen x did something we wouldn’t be forgetting about them /s (i kid i kid)

      but seriously, go get into the government or something, you guys are the prime age for entering the government right now.

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      I mean you can still have grandkids. I’ve heard they’re great deep fried with a light cornmeal batter and a creamy dill sauce.

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      Seems like old = boomers and young = millennials for journalist and a lot of people

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        People are having kids later in life, and the youngest millennials are only ~29.

        Millennials are predominantly the children of Boomers, so that’s why these two generations are basing singled out.

        Gen-X were called the a Baby Bust generation for a reason; there aren’t enough of them around in order to swap population metrics compared to what came directly before and after.

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    Young folks have been priced out of housing & healthcare, you can be fired from your job on a whim, food is astronomically expensive, the political climate is tense, your basic human rights could be rescinded at any time, the future of the planet is being murdered by shitty capitalists with 0 regard for human life…

    I mean, who wouldn’t want to bring a child into this world right now?

    Eat shit.

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      I’m hunting for a new job for the second time in less than a year, and I’m honestly a skilled professional with over 10 years of experience, with a lot of proof that I do great work. The labor market is stupid right now, just down right stupid. Full of executives searching for short term profits rather than anyone wanting to actually run a company well. That’s alone is a huge reason, on top of everything else. I don’t even know if I’ll have stable employment, and that means I don’t know if I’ll have stable health insurance - so genuinely what are any actual incentives to my generation to have kids? Literally are there any beyond just “you have a kid now”

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        I’m a software engineer currently trying to find employment, and it’s so bad I’m wondering if I’ll just have to do something else for a while.

        My last company basically fired all their US devs, and outsourced to foreign countries for cheaper.

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            Backend and platform/devops. I’ve worked a lot in Python, building out APIs from the ground up. Lots of cloud and serverless stuff. That being said, is only the most recent fraction of my resume.

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          I am a computing director. My take: software dev has been over saturated for the last 12-15 years but people keep seeing dollar signs in their eyes. My advice: learn a business skill like project management. It will allow you to work in any location.

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            I have 7 years professional experience, and I’m even getting passed over for positions listed as requiring 1-3 years. It’s wild right now.

            I’m thinking about just going back to school, while the market is complete shit.

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              There are always different parts of the stack to work in. I started in the backend database land. Then, moved to general application dev with a side of web. Now, I do embedded. Never stop learning ;]

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              That works too. A degree is a reset button on your career. I’d suggest either specializing in something niche to make you more desirable or doing something very different so that you have more options.

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        It’s shit, right? I’m so sorry. I hope that stability comes to you very soon.

        Reject tradition. You have no obligation to sacrifice your well-being because some old, out-of-touch fuckwads want something life-changing from you. Can’t even afford groceries.

        They can foster a child if they want one around so badly. Or go sit at a park. Or volunteer at the church nursery or something, ffs.

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          bingo. The SO and I have talked about it, and we decided if we regret it a bit later and it’s too late, adoption is always a valid choice. After all, we’re not bringing new life in so we don’t have to feel guilty about that, but instead we would be giving a home to someone else who needs one. However, there are still many, many negatives as to why we don’t want to or simply can’t right now.

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      The parts of the world with the most population growth are generally also the poorest. Richer countries have fewer children, and within those countries richer people have fewer children.

      I’m not saying that your concerns about your quality of life are invalid or that they aren’t the reason you personally don’t want children, but they don’t explain this general phenomenon.

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      Is it boomers that made homes and college unaffordable? I thought it was massive corporations like Blackrock buying up every SFH they can get their hands on, and universities inflating their tuition rates.

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        Boomers repealed all the laws on those guys in exchange for better returns on the 401ks and home sales.

        They sold humanity to our corporate overlords, they need to be held to account.

        They’re so anti-socialism: Suspend Medicare for 10 years, let the system sort itself out.

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          I mean, in Canada, none of those things happened, and our cost of living crisis makes the average US worker look like they’re making it rain in a rap video.

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        no it’s the lack of building supply and market liquidity.

        Shit like airbnb is going to have a more influential effect on the market than something like blackrock.

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          If America is anything like Canada, there are scads and scads of vacant mcmansion subdivisions literally everywhere that no one can afford to buy.