Appreciate the news, I don’t follow the million apps I’m forced to use closely so this is a great help to me. I guess I gotta use my venmo on patreon now.
Venmo is owned by Paypal.
I hear a class action lawsuit coming!
- Lawsuit wins
- Lawyers get paid millions
- Customers affected get maybe $9, for lower than their data was sold for
- PayPal walks away with it as the price of doing business, no one involved is jailed.
I deleted when I heard they were levying an inactivity fee in Canada.
I don’t live in Canada, but that was a shit move.
Ah yes, charging money for not using a service, makes perfect sense! /s
Not seeing anything about this in the settings for PayPal.ca account. Guess I’ll keep checking to see if they sneak it in at a later date for us Canucks.
- Einloggen
- Herunterscrollen und unten auf der Seite den Link „Datenschutz“ anklicken
- dann bei Datenschutz festlegen den Link „Datenschutzeinstellungen“ anklicken
- dann das Feld „Interessenbasierte Werbung“ anklicken
- auf jeden der beiden Einträge klicken und den Schalter jeweils auf „aus“ schalten
. Translated from the above:
- Log in
- Scroll down and click on the “Privacy” link at the bottom of the page
- then click on the “Privacy settings” link under Data & Privacy
- then click on the “Interest-based advertising” (Personalized shopping) field
- click on each of the two entries and set the switch to “off” in each case
I don’t see this option. Is it only in specific countries?
Did you follow the tutorial I posted? If so, the English-translated part may not have the right terminology. I followed the instructions on the linked website: https://www.404media.co/paypal-personalized-shopping-opt-out/. I suppose, this is appliccable worldwide.
My Data & Privacy section doesn’t have anything that seems relevant:
It looks like you’re missing the “Manage shared info” section and “Personalized Shopping” link, which yields the above toggle for me (CA, US)…
The question is, is it gone because your privacy laws make it impossible to even offer, or because your privacy laws don’t require them to care about your opinion at all?
Normally we are a small enough market that it takes a while to be worth sorting out whether they comply with our laws.
One that comes to mind is that data can only be used for the purpose it’s collected, so I suspect adding this and opting people in would probably not be allowed. Grey area though, as it’s not clear to me (IANAL) whether updating TS & Cs and telling people would be enough to be considered getting user consent. I suspect not, though, I think it would need to be opt in so you’ve actively got user consent.
So, most likely it’s because our privacy laws are a bit stronger than their threshold, but also possibly because a small country of 5 million people (where paypal isn’t that common) isn’t worth spending lawyers on to work out if they are allowed to.
Mine looks different, I’m in the US. I disabled the toggle under the Personalized Shopping. Under ‘Permissions you’ve given’ there was an entry for ‘PayPal shopping’ that I also disabled.
Might just be US for now until they sort out the legality of it in more privacy focused countries.
I’m in the EU, and both the fields are off already.
Also EU. Both options were enabled.
Thanks
Flush that turd.
They opted me in. What a shock. I may never recover from the surprise.
I deleted my account when I heard they were going to roll this out… If I’m using a service you ask me if you can sell me out, you dont give me the option after doing it
How do you do online shopping then? Most websites offer Paypal as a payment method, among credit cards. Or do you pay with a credit card?
Not the same person, but I do a credit card. It’s a lot easier to figure out a dispute with my card holder over PayPal. Plus I can cancel my credit card instantly instead of risking my personal information getting leaked as PayPal has done before. And if my PayPal got hacked they’d have access to more than just my credit card number.
I am this same person, what this fella said is true for me too
Is it really that unusual to pay online with a debit/credit card? I would consider that the standard way and PayPal an option sometimes available.
If your bank doesn’t offer virtual credit cards (or they’re a pain to use) and you don’t want to sign up with another service, then yeah - PayPal is safer to give than your credit card number.
In my experience, sites aren’t implementing their own credit card payments. Paypal and Stripe are common, and there are a couple of local payment portals as well.
If it’s not one of those I probably wouldn’t use it, but in general it would never be the case that you can’t pay with a credit card, where as PayPal is probably an option 1/3 of the time.
To me, it is. I don’t have a credit card - I never got one offered by my bank (…which makes one think…). Back in the “early days” (early 2000s - mostly on Ebay) it was quite common to recieve the bank information of the seller after purchase. Then I had to wire the money to the sellers’ account. There was no online banking. It could take up to a week to wire the money. After the seller recieved the payment, the ordered item got sent with postal service. When Paypal was introduced, it was a game changer: the seller recieved the money instantly, and could send the purchased item right away.
PayPal didn’t come to my country until after online banking was already established, so I probably get a different experience. Banks here also issue (Visa) debit cards for free with a standard no fee bank account, so pretty much everyone has one. Debit cards being like a credit card in terms of paying online, but it uses money in your account.
Our biggest ebay-like site has their own payment portal for instant payments, done to copy what eBay did with paypal except you can’t use it outside of paying for things you bought on that site. But people are generally paying wuth a debit/credit card. And bank transfers are very common, but I wasn’t buying stuff online in 2001 so I’m not sure what it was like then.
Even today, paying with paypal in my country is far more likely to be a credit/debit card payment than a bank account one.
Spin up a card using a service like Privacy and use that. I make one-time use cards with it all the time.
I haven’t used PayPal in ages, I only use Privacy cards.
How does one opt out?
Without reading, my guess is something convoluted like sending physical mail under a certain weight or sending an email within a certain date that has already passed. Imma go read it really quick and let you know how accurate I was.
Edit: Apparently you can just do it in the settings. But they will still do it “as necessary for transactions.” Which means they’ll probably still do it and just stretch what “necessary” means as far as they take it. Which is equally as shitty.
