• AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net
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    The last straw with consoles for me was when they all started charging money regularly just to play online multiplayer games.

    My Steam Deck makes for a better console-like experience than any of the major consoles, and more. I have zero interest in going back to Sony or especially Nintendo’s scams.

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      It blows my mind that the greatest trick Valve ever pulled was releasing a console that relies solely on backwards compatibility. There are zero games released for the steam deck.

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        Not only that, the Steam Deck actually has worse compatibility compared to a normal Windows PC, but the PC library is so extensive (and has so many emulators) that it doesn’t matter. You still have access to more games than anyone on a normal console ever could, and you can play most singleplayer console games for free. I played Mario Odyssey all the way through on my PC and it ran great.

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          And even better: people not valve will actually go and work to make the games that aren’t compatible working. For free.

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          It’s not quite strictly worse; some older games are easier to run in wine than natively. But your point still stands.

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        Same, tired of replacing the bumpers on my Xbox controllers, and want the extensibility I’ve seen with the decks controller layout.

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        I don’t, to be perfectly honest the builtin controls are the only part I don’t like. Too heavy, too bulky, terrible dpad, and for me it’s so uncomfortable to use the LR bumpers that I almost always remap them to the back paddles.

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      I’d happily pay for Steam because it provides a good service. Meanwhile, PSN and Nintendo Switch Online suck and are expensive (PSN is 70€ per year lmao).

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    Personally I decided about 6 years ago that I wouldn’t buy another non-portable game console.

    At this stage I just don’t see any reason to drop $600+ on a console when I could put that $600~ towards upgrading my PC and get vastly more value for my money.

    So as far as I’m concerned, the only consoles worth looking at at all right now at the Nintendo Switch, which I have and love, and the Steam Deck, which would offer me my PC gaming experience with something it lacks: portability.

    Aside from that, I personally couldn’t give 2 shits what’s happening in the world of XBox or Playstation these days.

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      My Steam Deck has been my primary gaming device for about 2 years now. I absolutely love it. I’ve put a lot of my switch games on it for the convenience. I love my OLED switch though and I wish I had the OLED deck.

      Still, it’s amazing enough that everything else I have is collecting dust. Been going through all the MegaMan games recently. I’m on 8 at the moment, the only one I never played in the main series.

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        I love MM8. Definitely feels a bit like the black sheep of the bunch but I think it’s awesome. Plays a little slow compared to some of the others to me, but I like a lot of the ideas there

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          Oh me too, I’m absolutely loving it. They put so much work into it. Even the things I didn’t initially like about it have grown on me. It’s been nothing but fun for me.

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      Plus us patient gamers can enjoy those PS “exclusives” when they release on PC.

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        Yeah exactly. Crazy thing is a good game is just as good 3, 4 years later as it is on release day. What a novel idea, right?

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          There was a time where the fact that launch meant a high player count, big community energy, and lack of hyper-optimized strategies minmaxxing the fun out of a game was sufficient reason to get it at launch.

          But given how often modern launches are bungled, even that is not always true

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            Yeah I should have clarified that for multiplayer games, especially lobby-style instead of persistent-world style, all of this changes because how active and engaged the playerbase is a HUGE component.

            But I’m a solo player 90% of the time, so that particular aspect, while important, doesn’t really pertain to me.

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              Even big singleplayer games can be fun. I liked being involved in the early days of BG3’s release, for example. But then again, no mans sky and cyberpunk sucked

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    Honestly, Sony really sees itself as a premium(ish) brand that puts a heavy emphasis on novelty with a bit of sophistication thrown in. They also see Nintendo as a kid’s toy company. So, the expense (and some of the scarcity) is entirely the point.

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      Do you get cheaper bread meters going for the cheaper mass produced loaves or by going for the longer length but more artisan breads like baguettes? Or maybe bread sticks?

      Also, does anyone make linked bread (like sausages), to increase the speed one can deploy it in a straight line?

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        Im pretty sure the extra lenght of baguettes is not enough to justify paying the extra price for them

        To solve the time problem of placing all the bread in a line, you could try to start a cult. It takes a while to set up, but will save you time(and money) in the long run

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          A new bread worshipping cult to give an alternative food-based religion for those who are sick of spaghetti.

          No love for celiacs in the food cult space yet.

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    Honestly don’t know what they thought was going to happen. They’ve had some misfires lately with the PS5 Pro not being needed at all (the PS5 is a decent bit of kit, and certainly capable of handling everything this gen can throw at it), selling a remote access tablet/controller that doesn’t connect to their own cloud service, and even they’ve stopped talking about Concord.

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    Did a quick one to mimic my current “console killer” pc that sits in my living room, runs Bazzite 6700 XT

    This is new stuff, one of the benefits of PC gaming is that you can roll builds. So if you had a gaming pc in the last 5 years you’re looking at a £450 upgrade, not a £700 one if you’re a PS5 player. Or even hitting up used for things like cases etc

    Using a bench of Horizon Zero Dawn for the GPU

    2k bench taken from techspot

    so doing what the PS5 pro will be and using an upscaller like FSR/DLSS to hit 4k

    4K is in the 50s, but again scalers used brings it to 60.

    Type Item Price
    CPU AMD Ryzen 5 4600G 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor £87.70 @ NeoComputers
    Motherboard Biostar B450MHP Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard £50.99 @ Ebuyer
    Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 CL16 Memory £16.48 @ Amazon UK
    Storage Western Digital Blue SA510 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive £99.98 @ Amazon UK
    Video Card ASRock Radeon RX6700XT PGD 12GO Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card £449.99 @ Amazon UK
    Case Thermaltake S100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case £34.99 @ Scan.co.uk
    Power Supply MSI MAG A550BN 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply £42.99 @ Amazon UK
    Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
    Total £783.12
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-09-12 08:02 BST+0100

    I have played GOW as well as a ton of other games this year at a resolution of 2K 144fps HDR on my machine without any issues or stutters. Also don’t have to wait for a republish that I have to rebuy to enjoy older games at 4k 140hz currently playing AC4 and it looks amazing.

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      I’ve seen it mentioned that ryzen is more memory speed sensitive, seen Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 X 8GB) DDR4 3600 MHz CL16 kit for £35 on UK amazon, see a 32 GB kit for £60 for 3600, £52 for 3200. 32 is super overkill for most people still (shit I recall when 16GB was considered overkill), but it’s cheap enough that it’s harder to say it’s a waste imo.

      Side note, GOW is what sold me on hdr and was the game that got me to upgrade from a 780ti and 3rd gen i5, literally couldn’t even run the game.

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      you can build a 7600XT setup for around $700, so I’d expect 16GB… which it has? I reckon you can build PS5 pro matching system now for 800 - 900 dollhairs, but that’ll change when the next gen gpus launch.

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        Since you’re too lazy to make your own argument, here.

        Buying New (Because theres no true bottom to used PC Parts):

        GPU - 7600XT Fighter - $330 USD

        MB - ASRock B450 - $90

        CPU - Ryzen 5 2400G - $135

        SSD - Kingston NV2 - $60

        PSU - MSI MAG A650BN (Bronze) - $65

        Oops, only $19 for RAM, a case, and peripherals…

        Time to get schwifty and shit on the floor.

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    But can it run Linux?

    Honestly if it was a open ecosystem with powerful hardware that wouldn’t unreasonable. Also if the games were cheaper it would be fine as often consoles are sold at a loss.

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    Given that most games are multi-platform and that developers would need to optimize games for existing consoles, is there any real need for the pro version (not counting the Sony’s desire to earn money by selling PS5 twice)?

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      It would be an instant buy for me if it has full backwards compatibility, and I’d let them tack on another hundo for psp/vita games. That’s basically what my Steam deck is. Every console emulated and PC games.