• Atomic@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    You’re not allowed to be naked in public. Doesn’t matter if you want to protest jeans. You can’t be naked.

    You’re not allowed to take a shit on the curb outside of whatever you want to protest either.

    You’re not allowed to burn flags of forgein nations.

    plenty of expressions that can be used to protest are banned. What’s so different here? You can still burn as many books as you want in your own backyard. You just can’t do it at the town square.

    And as a final note. It’s a proposition. It hasn’t been voted on. How about you save your outrage until they’ve actually decided on what to do?

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      1 year ago

      Noone is talking about indecent exposure or defecating in public, we’re taking about burning your own possession.

      I’d also argue a private citizen should be allowed to burn any flag they want. It’s the same thing as with books.

      • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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        1 year ago

        you know in most places it is illegal to start any fire in public? You are not allowed to start a campfire on a public plaza or barbeque in most parks already. Why should there be a specific exception for burning things to incite hatred and violence against people?

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          1 year ago

          All of that is fine. Limit where you can burn something, limit the toxicity of the item burned, but do not limit burning things based on “offense”.

          You need to see the difference between limiting something because it’s dangerous vs causing offense. That is a dangerous road no democratic government should go down.

          • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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            1 year ago

            Inciting violence in public by burning symbols of a minority group is a threat to democracy and should be prohibited. Take it from a German, we have experience with escalating hatred and because of that we also have proper laws against hate speech now.

            Burning a religious book is a form of hate speech and serves only to incite hate.

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        1 year ago

        Point is. There are plenty of things we can’t do.

        What purpose does a public book burning serve beyond provoking and insulting?

        That’s why it’s not allowed to burn forgein flags. It’s just a means to insult a group of people in public.

        Now, I’m not for a ban on book burning, religious or otherwise. If you have the permit go nuts. But the arguments people present are just really really bad.

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          The point is, you brining up things we can’t do outside of the burning symbols discussion is irrelevant. We’re not allowed to slap people, therefore we should not be allowed to criticize the government simply does not follow.

          We’re talking about having the right to burn your OWN possessions. The government should not be in the business of deciding what is offensive or isn’t. It’s a slippery slope that can’t end well.

          • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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            1 year ago

            You can burn your own things in private, just as much as you can be naked in private, jack off to furry porn, do drugs or worship a Hitler statue in private. But you cannot and shouldn’t do so in public.