Every country has problems. Maybe let’s shit on those too.

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    Most of the other countries with problems don’t have their citizens walking around loudly declaring as a matter of average discourse that they are the “greatest country in the world”.

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        I AM a European.

        I’ve never heard any German claim that this should be a good country by any means.

        “We’ve kinda got some industry” - “yeah, but china got more”

        “We’re relatively good at healtcare and social security” - “have you ever even heard about nordic countries?”

        “Uh, freedom of religion?” - “france does it better”

        “We’re claimed to be exact and punctual?” - “No, that’s the swiss.”

        “Beer and Bread?” - “That’s more like the polish?”

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          This is an obvious bad example because German nationalism died with Hitler. Of all European countries, Germany hates itself the most.

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            German nationalism died with Hitler

            Oh, how I wish this to be even remotely true!

            so you claim that portuguese run around, claiming theirs is the best country?

            How about the austrians? Irish? Scotts? Danish? Polish? Czech? Croats?

            Note: I wouldn’t ask about Netherlands or nordic countries (because imho IF they’d claim that, then they just might kinda have a good point) or the swiss (they can claim similar, I just wouldn’t follow their reasoning in the slightest).

            Well, and there’s the English too…

            But still: what is a good example in your opinion?

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              It is remotely true. Waving German flags at soccer games was essentially non-existent. Germans are more likely to identify as European rather than German, compared to other EU nations. If you ask Europeans “is your culture superior” people like Greeks say yes but people like Germans say no.

              A good example would be the UK or France .They believe they are top dogs but, by US standards, they are impoverished.

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                Huh?

                Soccer games are like the only* socially accepted events where you can proudly bring out a german flag without looking like a nationalist. At world championship the whole city is a sea of black-red-gold.

                I’m quite surprised.

                Tho I’m not a soccer fan and therefore don’t know how that looks abroad.

                *(hyperbolic; guess if we think more than a few seconds we could find more, nut that’s not that important of a point here)

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                They believe they are top dogs but, by US standards, they are impoverished.

                o.0

                No, they are not.

                Median wealth is way better. and that doesn’t even take into account that you can get way better housing/healtcare/whatever for less money.

                What are you even talking about?

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    The worst part is when they do this — play the victim and whine because they have the “right” to bear their fucking child killing machine against each other and other countries while singing a song with traditional values that their kids should do as they give their daily 99% of their bodies to the megacorp. But poor you! Your media and people are free and you get attacked for being too good! It’s nothing like the other megastate that also oppress their people, it’s way different

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      I mean, I like it that you not gwt killed from our megastate if you critisize it.

      And I mean, I dont see how anybody is praising China ?

      So I dont get your point, because the media we consume is mostly western, the politics and society is mostly western. Why should we critisize eastern megastates for it?