• million@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    This is a good step but I still feel like it’s pretty obscure where a package is actually coming from. “by Google” or for the Steam package “by Valve” is really confusing and makes it sounds like it’s coming directly from the company. Unverified tells the user to pay attention but there is no hover over to say what it actually means.

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      Also maaany packages direct to issuetrackers of projects not supporting that flatpak.

      If someone knows where that flathub metadata is stored I would love to know, as the manifest is not it. I would like to fix those to link to their own bugtrackers

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        The only good GUI for Flatpaks…

        Ain’t that the truth. I don’t know why KDE Discover is so sluggish when it comes to Flatpak, it takes me like 10+ seconds to load the landing page and see the popular apps.

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            First time I’ve heard someone call Gnome Software fast. In my experience that app feels like it’s on it’s last legs; the Flatpak CLI is far better than any desktop GUI.

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              Gnome Software has received numerous updates over the last few years which make it considerable faster. Searching and viewing apps is now fast enough to be usable, compared to it taking many seconds to minutes for basic tasks.

              I’ve stopped removing Software on every system, altough I’m not usually using it. I’ve not tested it, but I feel like Discover is now slower than Software.

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        Because if you search Firefox and see a badge that says verified, you can be confident that it was Mozilla that packaged it and added it to FlatHub as opposed to some random scammer.

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      Verification doesnt help at all if the source is not trusted. All this says is “upstream developers maintain this package”. Unofficial packages can be safe too, like VLC.

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      I still don’t understand why a central repository for AppImages exist. The moment you are using a repository (and possibly version management), the format looses its reason to exist.

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          I personally use a few AppImages, but want replace them with Flatpaks. Flatpaks have their own issues, and because I did not want to troubleshoot in case I encounter another issue, just carry on using AppImages for these selected applications. Also I was not able to archive Flatpak easily, its very complicated with keys and not. Compared to it, I just have the AppImages included in my regular backup process with regular files.

          My point was not if AppImages are useful (they clearly are and I use them), but was talking bout repositories. However after some other replies I thought about it and indeed such a repository makes sense even for AppImages. I personally just don’t have to use them.

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              Not really. AppImages are as much secure as any other executable you run on your system. If you download it from a trusted source, like you download trusted Flatpaks or your systems repository, then they are not worse. If you say AppImages are highly insecure, because you run executable code, then you have to take that logic to any other executable format. The problem is not the format itself that makes it insecure, it’s the source.

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                  I read that page and there is nonsense included too. Just because I read that page does not make it correct. If you think that AppImages insecure, then you did not understand my point that its not the format thats insecure, but the source where you get the files. Every packaging system is insecure if you get it from bad source.

                  That’s not even a question. AppImages are fine and not insecure if you download it from a secure place you trust (like your system packages, you trust your distro maintainer fully). Would you trust every distribution maintainer on every distribution? Let’s say a Chinese Linux distribution, that maintains Flatpaks and native packages. Let’s say they are flaky. See? It’s the source you don’t trust, not the file format or packaging system.

                  Read my replies (just like you said I should read the linked post). And understand the issues.