• MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml
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    8 hours ago

    Jokes aside, there’s evidence that the more processed the food in your daily consumtion is, the more likely you’re to get fat and other health issues. Our natural mechanisms to detect if you’ve had enough don’t work as well on processed food.

    Just in case someone takes this seriously.

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      5 hours ago

      You have a study link? I’m interested in how they show causation. Because health conscious people will be more likely to eat healthier, and less likely to eat highly processed foods.

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      7 hours ago

      While its almost certain that whole food diets are optimal, theres nothing inherent about food being processed that makes it unhealthy. Some people take anything to do with diet/fitness/wellness to stupid places like “Ugh! That protein bar is PROCESSED! These brownies are home made from whole ingredients, I dont polute my body.” Whey protein powder is processed, multi vitamins are processed and greens powders are processed… Raw milk isnt processed… my lactose free dairy products are processed and thats best for everyone.

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        It’s not literally any processing that’s the problem. It’s that what we generally call processed food is engineered to optimize for things other than the health of those who eat it: flavor, addictiveness, cheapness, etc. And all of those goals are so pervasive and so at odds with health that virtually anything we call “processed food” is terrible for us.

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        Processed unhealthy foods are generally viewed as the items that have been stripped down in to some degree and then reassembled with ingredients like sugar, preservatives, flavors, dyes, stabilizers, etc.

        Many studies have shown that yes, indeed, there are processed foods that are inherently unhealthy. We don’t need to play with semantics of what “processed” means to split hairs in an effort to be right.

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          First thing I said was that whole foods are optimal, thats the key takeaway here. Yeah, some processed foods are TERRIBLE for you, some processed foods are “not bad” for you, some are even healthy. My point is that a food being processed isnt the defining element on wether or not its bad for you. In most cases its the ease of access combined with the hyper paletable nature of processed foods that will do you in.

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        7 hours ago

        Isn’t “Processed” a really open term? Like, if I bake some veggies in my oven they’re technically processed?

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          It’s why there is also the category of ultra processed. That’s where they start to add fat, sugar, salt, dye and preservatives. That’s where things get unhealthy.

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          5 hours ago

          If you wash the dirt of the veggies they are technically processed

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          Exactly. Take my preferred snack for example, a bag of oven baked pork rinds. 37G protein, 12g fat, 0 carbs. (Ok theres an assload of salt) about 250 cals. No artificial colors, flavours or preservatives… is that “processed”?

          My point was more along the lines that a “processed” formed chicken breast pattie isnt somehow worse for you than a big slab of crunchy fatty pork belly because it went through a machine. Its possible to make good decisions involving processed food and terrible whole foods decisions too… delicious decadent “now I want pork belly” decisions. I do wonder how many of these studies control for calorie intake, quality of nutrition, etc.

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            In my honest opinion, processed things are things that are, through scientific methods, made to be addictive. Like Pringles having the perfect crunch or different chemical compounds of Red Bull (color spot on the bottom). I don’t count cured meat as processed, but I have a hard time calling a pound of deli ham anything but processed.

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              See you just gave me the perfect example. Pringles.

              Compare the macros on a serve of Pringles (definitely an ultra-processed food. I googled the ingredients - Dehydrated potato, vegetable oils, wheat starch (gluten), rice flour, emulsifier (471), maltodextrin, salt, acidity regulator (330).) and a serve of Kettle Chips (Potatoes, sunflower oil, sea salt) the macros are pretty damn close to the same. One is ultra-processed, one is at least processed and I imagine if you thinly sliced a potato and fried it at home and salted them you would get a similar product with similar nutrition to the Kettle chips but would it still be considered processed?

              Admittedly there is an argument to be made about micronutrients and phytochemicals that would give the kettles and home mades a slight edge on any “which is healthier” discussion, but the honest answer to “Which of these foods should you sit down and demolish a salad bowl full of?” is NONE because processed or not, its a highly paletable bowl of calorie dense food thats incredibly easy to over consume.

              The problem isnt the processing, the problem is that making a giant pile of home made chips is hard and time consuming so you probably wont and a bag of Kettles is a $3 addition to my trolley.

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                The problem isnt the processing, the problem is that making a giant pile of home made chips is hard and time consuming so you probably wont

                This is it exactly! Look at noodles! I consider them processed food, and since I got a noodle machine (non-electric) I don’t eat them as often as I used to.

                Even if you got the flour at home, it’s still very time consuming. you would think twice if you just throw some potatoes into boiling water or if you risk making your kitchen dirty while hand-making noodles.

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    11 hours ago

    above all else, processed foods are designed to maximize profits.

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    4 hours ago

    “washed” as if your body was steril lmao you have more bacteria in your gut than one kidney weighs

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    10 hours ago

    I think the word organic gets over used a lot, like “try our organic strawberries”, I’ve never heard of chemical strawberries so what’s the deal?