This should be the sticking point to invoke the 25th. Officials need to be loud and make a stink about how Trump can’t tell fact from clear fiction and therefore cannot perform the duties of the office. Make the people of America see the image on the news everyday and make those on his side say out loud if they think it’s fake or real. Half of the masses will never be convinced that he lacks the morality to lead until they’re already in his camps. This is the earliest clear as day moment to act on that which cannot be held to subjective scrutiny or partisanship.
The photo:
So just to be fair, whoever made that tried to illustrate that the 4 symbols - in their imagination - represent “M S 1 3”. Which in itself is ludicrous. And even if they did, that’s still no reason to deport him.
Anyhoo, Trump’s reply when someone dared try to explain this to him:
This is everyday tyranny in action. It’s also very dumb and very delusional. Louis XIV levels.
How is this farce still going on?
But then, just yesterday I learned a little about El Salvador and their idiot president. Who am I kidding. As long as the people go with it, it’s possible no matter how ludicrous. I still say it’s social media algorithms that got us here.
You didn’t highlight the best part of that interview, and something other journalists should start doing, he handed tRump his own ass and never looked or sounded flustered or worried about the results of the interview. He asked hard questions, even some that sounded dumbed down to help tRump’s feeble brain understand.
The best part was shortly after this quote, I think, where tRump said how something might not happen, like completing the rest of the interview, and the dude straight said, “we will.” The look on tRump’s face was like a parent hearing their kid tell them “no” for the first time. But he didn’t say anything more. It was a glorious example of how to deal with a bully.
tRump can’t handle direct confrontation to his actions. He gets pissed and, if he can, tries to leave the scene or, like this interview and the debate with Harris, he’s stuck and has to do the whole thing or look like a baby. It’s why his only push back is digital or when the other party can’t rebuke him. He’s a coward who, like most conservatives, can dish it out but can’t take it. He relies on his base to do the tough guy stuff and uses his platform to rile them up.
Don’t forget MSM sane washing everything he does.
Definitely, but those that were pumped with money for fake ads to convince idiots to vote for destruction
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
It was the combination of hyper-capitalism and the Russian playbook to destabilize the west that got us here.
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Clearly made with MS Paint 13.0. isn’t this just the watermark from MsPaint?
What is weird is that his wife did censor a photo of his hands in on of their photos recently. I feel like this is an easy thing to prove. Who knows. But we should be a bit more skeptical. Not just of Trump but our own sources.
Why the down votes. If I’m wrong on this, let me know. But let’s not bury our heads on things.
Even if MS13 he should have due process. That process is where all these questions get answered. Without it we have this shit show. But let’s not let our political vibe cause us to not question things or be skeptical. Nobody should dig in on an issue and deny based on vibes
I don’t have many social media accounts but is this legit?
Www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/kilmar-abrego-garcias-wife-covered-his-knuckle-tattoos-in-old-post-trump-says-101745016615149-amp.html
That’s practically dead centre in the photo, you know, the place where people will tend to put text and emojis in the photos they take?
even if it’s on purpose, so one of them decided hey let’s not have the marijuana tattoo right in the middle of our cutesy picture. or a skull for that matter. who gives a shit.
That could be it but I don’t know if that explains it well enough. She doesn’t owe any one that doubts her anything. But also she could shut it down with the original photo. Any of it really. If they’re saying these are cover ups, why not show a timeline that proves these weren’t covering anything up.
What pisses me off is how often I listen to sources on the left that will frame everything weirdly. Then I’ll bring it up and I’ll have someone on the right pull out details they were purposely left out on a story originally. Then I look like it up and sure enough the person on the right are correct and the left focused corners aren’t talking about half the shit.
I’d just like to see less bullshit from everybody. But it’s driving me that even though bullshit is higher on the right. We’re not far behind and it’s getting worse.
Don’t be this person. Use brain cells instead.
Birthers claimed for years that seeing Obama’s long form birth certificate would alleviate their citizenship concerns. Spoiler: it didn’t, they moved the goal posts.
Once people are identity-level invested in something being true - in this case that deportations are about public safety and not racism, because no way could they or people they respect be racist - sinking time into producing evidence for them is futile. It is no longer about facts, it’s about identity. Sometimes people break out of these self-imposed mental prisons if a main trusted person who helped lead them there loses their trust for an unrelated reason (not one that had become identity-latched). Sometimes being welcomed into a different community that fulfills those identity needs will let them see their previously identity-latched falsehoods as false. But evidence is always futile.
How do you know that we’re not invested in that though?
That’s what I’m asking. I’m not asking to prove them wrong. Why are we not asking “is this true”
Maybe I’ll wrong, have you seen any one verifying anything?
Years ago I feel like we did question things and verify things. But lately I feel we are as invested as the trumpets are
Being invested at an identity level is a human trait, not a Republican or MAGA one. It’s not “lately”, it’s all of human history.
We all readily recognize the blind spots in people we consider part of an out-group. Becoming more aware of the blind spots of people we consider fellow in-group members, and especially in ourselves, is more difficult, but I believe important to strive for. Having blind spots is natural. Recognizing them and trying to compensate for them in our thinking can benefit decision-making.
In the case of “are the tattoos on this guy’s fingers MS13-related”, there is way more substantive discussion to be had than demanding the guy’s girlfriend dig up and share publicly a years-old couple’s picture without the emoji. Some quotes below if they are of interest, and the article has a picture with the full fingers and their tattoos fully visible in case that really was what you were going for. https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/01/politics/abrego-garcias-tattoos-explainer
I appreciate that. And I’m not saying she should do anything. But I am saying we should be asking hard questions ourselves. Regardless if he is ms13 he deserves due process. Saying that, we should know if any parties are lying or hiding things. It does not look good when someone is playing games and we collectively reinforce those games.
We’re not asking if it’s true because it doesn’t fucking matter. That’s up to a court and a jury, which Abrego Garcia never went in front of.
Also, please tell me you’re not asking if the ms paint arial black 12 pt font letters are really on his hands. If you are, I have a bridge I’d like to sell you.
No, but people do realize the ms paint wasn’t a lazy attempt to manufacture ms13 on his hands. They were referencing what the finger tats stood for. This was kind of why I got a bit frustrated with the truth here. It seems a lot of people realize trump did think the letters were actually there. But there were also people who don’t realize the letters were a reference, they weren’t a lazy photo shop attempt.
I think what does matter is how we approach these things. We shouldn’t refuse to ask questions or be skeptical. We should be comfortable to ask if there is information being hidden. It’s dishonest to refuse to investigate and ask questions out of a fear of what the truth is. It makes us so look bad when we collectively ignore key information. It’s is important if he is a gang member. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t get due process. But it’s information that if one person refuses to accept, they will look dishonest as if they’re playing a game