I use the apps my friends use but it gets tiring to keep up with so many.

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        Hahaha, SimpleX on Android is fine, the Desktop client is kinda incompatible with anything (no flatpak, the ubuntu version is kinda broken, no repo, their sync requires a random firewall port to be open)

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            Yeah I avoid installing stuff to my system but I looked into RPM .spec files and that should be possible too. Flatpak would be the way to go though.

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              Personally, I do the opposite. I try to avoid flatpaks and the like. And the AUR enables that really well

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                  Security is a compromise between convenience and safety.

                  However, simply using flatpaks isn’t inherently more secure than using a binary or compiling from source. But it can make it easier to be secure for people that don’t want to manage their own sandboxes.

                  It’s also easier for devs so they only have to make one version of their app which in theory should work on all systems. But in practice I find it doesn’t always work that way

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    I use telegram mostly because it have great features and its certainly better than any meta apps in privacy and private enough imo. It was easy to get my friends and family on telegram because they loved those features, signal is just… boring.

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        and how? dont send me a decade old audit on the protocol which telegram abandoned around the same time.

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          chats are not e2e encrypted by default and group chats are never e2e encrypted. even whatsapp is e2ee for every chat.

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            And how does being e2ee by default guarantee you are secure? whatsapp doesnt even encrypt metadata.

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              I don’t like whatsapp either but my claim still holds. e2ee by default for all chats is arguably more privacy respecting than opt-in e2ee for 1-1 chats only. and what metadata exactly does telegram encrypt but whatsapp does not?

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                e2ee by default only for your data to be used when you back it up. Atleast there have been no data breaches reported in telegram so far

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                  you can encrypt backups in whatsapp but we might agree on whatsapp and telegram being equally bad then

                  no data breaches reported in telegram so far

                  yes they hand it out voluntarily, search term: telegram german authorities

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    Your options are RCS, Signal, or Lemmy mentions. Or losing contact with me I guess but I’m irresistible

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        Oh, where to begin. Telegram is wild. It may not be spyware in the traditional sense, but they’ve already handed over data to the Indian government, left a telephone number scraping vulnerability open for the Iranian government, and gotten caught with “the most backdoor looking bug” with their unwisely handmade encryption algorithm.

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          Telegram’s backend is proprietary software and they (very similarly to Discord for example) can just decide to read your chats whenever they want. It’s even worse then WhatsApp in this sense (at least as long as you trust Facebook that they actually encrypt your chats, again, there is no way to know if it’s proprietary software).