With support ending for Windows 10, the most popular desktop operating system in the world currently, possibly 240 million pcs may be sent to the landfill. This is mostly due to Windows 11’s exorbitant requirements. This will most likely result in many pcs being immediately outdated, and prone to viruses. GNU/Linux may be these computers’ only secure hope, what do you think?
There is a reason Microsoft demands 8th gen cpu:
Older cpus are susceptible for spectre and meltdown side channel attacks. There are many more similar flaws, like ZombieLoad.
Some of these attacks can be mitigated but with a huge performance penalty.
Here is a German blog post with even more reasons: carolapantenburg.wordpress.com/2021/08/03/windows-11-und-die-8-generation/
That is one of the worst tech blog posts I’ve read this year. It looks like the information was just copy&pasted from other sources with like one “see?” comment in between.
A ton of people can barely open a PDF and this sub thinks those people can change to a completely different operating system.
Honestly Linux mint can be more user friendly. The problem is that no one else knows how to help people using it
The trouble is that most people are barely even aware that Linux exists and asking them to download the ISO and make a bootable USB stick is like asking them to fly to the moon by flapping their arms.
Because the hardware is being made obsolete for a reason. They are inefficient compared to modern hardware, consume way too much power and there are cheaper and more powerful options available.
A modern ARM-based computer like the Raspberry Pi 5 can outperform most computers and laptops running Windows 10 and have a smaller environmental footprint.
The problem is that the obsolete hardware is not cost effective to decommission and recycle. They have not been designed for an environmentally conscious world.
My 4th generation Intel processor is still chugging along in my gaming PC. I’ve had it in there for almost 10 years and it’s still fine for new games. I also edit videos on it. It’s absolutely overpowered for most people today and it would still be fine for most people’s uses in 10 years from now.
I feel like most of these computers are underpowered and worthless to most people outside of a web browsing machine. Which is fine I guess if you don’t have a computer at all. But when some of us are rocking six or seven computers in our house, do we need anymore?
My 4th generation Intel processor is still chugging along in my gaming PC. I’ve had it in there for almost 10 years and it’s still fine for new games. I also edit videos on it. It’s absolutely overpowered for most people today and it would still be fine for most people’s uses in 10 years from now.
My laptop is a cast off from a member of my staff who said it was too slow - a (dmidecode) - Product Name: HP 255 G6 Notebook PC. It now runs Arch (actually).
It previously slogged along with Win 10, Outlook n O365 n that. Now it does Libre Office, Evolution and much more. I use KDE, which isn’t known for a light touch on the resources. I also do light CAD and other stuff.
My office desktop is even older - it was a customer cast off, due to be skipped around six years ago. I did slap a SSD into it and I think I upped the RAM to 8GB. Its a (ssh, dmidecode): Product Name: Lenovo H330 and the BIOS is dated from 2012! I run two 23" screens off it and again, it runs Arch (actually) and KDE for pretty stuff. I run containers on it - at the moment a test Vikunja instance. I have apache, nginx and caddy fronting various experiments backed up with postgres and mariadb.
Both devices are “domain joined” and I auth to Exchange via Kerberos, via Samba winbind. File access (drive letters for the Windows mindset) is currently via autofs. I have a project on at a member of staff’s request to switch from Windows to Linux. I’m going to take my time and get it right. My current thinking is the Fedora KDE spin and this: Closed In Directory
KDE not being light on resources hasn’t been true for years. A base install uses like 500 MB of RAM. It runs very good on any machine newer than like 15 years.
It now runs Arch
Btw
Didnt microsoft say win10 would be the last and just continously updated? i only switched like 3 years ago. Fucking scammers
I think Microsoft should actually be forced to either extend support or give the user one option to be secured. With the later I mean pay for license or click here to automatically choose a Linux distro that the user will be migrated to. It could be Mint or one of MS own Linux distribution with OneDrive preinstalled and links to Office 365 online word. Even install Android could be one option.
This is better than getting all the devices on the landfill.
Remember that 99% don’t know what to do with their computer or are lazy. One easy fix should be available.
forcing companies to do the right thing
But this is known in the USA to be communism. Why do you hate freedom? Don’t you know there is nothing better in all of humanity but maximising profits?
Is there allready a set end of support date ? And i think that if its soon then Linux usage will increase, nothing motivates people more than money.
- you can bypass the hardware requirements, a single checkbox in Rufus
- people dont update ever
But yeah Windows starts doing what basically every phone manufacturer is doing, and everyone freaks out. You see, postmarketOS with 10y of support is a thing. 10 years! Thats not much and thats damn Alpine Linux on a phone, which is pretty much insane