• dnick@sh.itjust.works
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    US date/time is actually closer to the ideal notation if you consider that for the majority of date references you don’t need the year, so July 4th at 12:45:59 actually makes sense and denotes time from most to least significant digit. If you just shift the year to the front, you have an ideal naming convention and no confusion in identifying month and day.

    In European, the date goes from least significant to most significant digits for the year and most to least significant for the time. For all the valid arguments on the side of the metric system vs imperial, if you ever want to shut the argument down for date formatting just ask why they don’t keep the same format for date as they do for time, say 59:45:12 4/7/2023? For consistency that is how they should write 59 seconds after 45 minutes after the 12th hour of the 4th day of the 7th month of the year 2023.

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      just ask why they don’t keep the same format for date as they do for time, say 59:45:12 4/7/2023? For consistency that is how they should write 59 seconds after 45 minutes after the 12th hour of the 4th day of the 7th month of the year 2023.

      By that logic, that time should be written as 45:59:12 in Imperial.

      For consistency.

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        :) fair point…I do admit that MDY is dumb, my only real argument is that MD makes more sense, and that is what is used in the US. The fact that our next step is MDY instead of YMD loses all the credibility, and Minute:Second:Hour is a funny and well deserved mockery of that.

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          1 year ago

          my only real argument is that MD makes more sense, and that is what is used in the US

          Sometimes.

          Sometimes it isn’t.

          Like when people say “4th of July” instead of 7/4.

  • fidodo@lemmy.sdf.org
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    I actually like fahrenheit for weather. 0 is really fucking cold, 100 is really fucking hot.

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          Our thermostats haven’t. I really don’t understand it - it can’t possibly be more expensive to make, the cheapest of parts can give you better than tenths of a degree, just give us half degrees and we wouldn’t even need another button.

          Half of them use touch screens anyways! How are you going to give us WiFi on them while making them less adjustable than a 55 year old analog one?? I can set the freaking background and send messages to them from the other side of the world, but there’s not even a hidden option for fine adjustment.

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            Having thermostats with sub-degree values actually doesn’t make a lot of sense since the temperature within a room fluctuates by a few degrees between the hottest and the coldest spot. Hence setting target temperatures with higher accuracy is as accurate as measuring micron-accurate distances by eye.

            “Yeah, I can totally see that this is 2154 microns long. I can see that from across the room!”

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      1 year ago

      If it is 0 F° or 0 C° and tomorrow it’s double as cold, how cold is it?

      Neither Celsius nor Fahrenheit make rational sense. The numbers are just for fun in these scales. Kelvin is the only good choice.

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    Thanks! I hate it.

    But in all honesty, this is almost like being inside a Canadian’s brain. I have to translate back and forth at work all the time, and even cooking involves converting things back and forth. I have no idea how many drams to a gallon, so I’ll convert ounces to mL, then scale as necessary, and then convert back to US customary because the measuring cups and spoons are labelled in American.

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      1 year ago

      Measuring cups and spoons is probably my worst international pet peeve. I do not understand why please? Why not measure with a scale like every sane being?

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      1 year ago

      conniptions

      I had to look that one up, thank you for giving me the new word of the day!

      con·​nip·​tion kə-ˈnip-shən. : a fit of rage, hysteria, or alarm

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    I’m happy with metric generally speaking - except for Celsius when talking about ambient temperature. I will die on that hill. Freezing/boiling point of water is a ridiculous point of reference for temperature as experienced by humans.

    Fahrenheit: 0 = really cold; 100 = really hot

    Celsius: -17.778 = really cold; 38.333 = really hot

    Not to mention that the Celsius grading is too big requiring use of tenths when discussing weather and setting a thermostat…

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      It’s really hot for a human way before 100°F, it’s becoming uncomfortable when it’s more than 77°F (or 25°C for most humans. The “100 really hot” part is not really a benefit for anyone.

      Also the point when water freezes is pretty important in the winter. You can see immediately that you have to drive carefully when the temperature is close to 0°C. So I think 0° freezing makes the most sense.

      However: Temperature of boiling water is useless, that’s true.

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      Fahrenheit automatically disqualifies itself from being a serious unit, because it has an inconsistent scale

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          The original definition is using three points:

          • A random human’s body temperature defined 96°F
          • Freezing point of Water defined 32°F
          • A weird Water salt ice mixture to defined 0°F

          Because of that the scale of Fahrenheit was different above the Freezing point of water and below, requiring to redefine the temperature at the reference points multiple times (and not by an insignificant amount)

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    “Base 12” is nice because it is easy to divide into halves, quarters, thirds as whole numbers. The rest is a bit of a mess though, I guess.

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      Base12 Units would be much more useful if we used Base12 numbers

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      Ey! It was the blood temperature of a horse before that, okay?! So it’s not as if there were no improvements made at all! /s