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  • if you feel the need to correct everyone then that’s kinda a you issue

    True but also unhelpful imo. That’s how social networks took hold, right. it’s really hard to not voice your opinion if you see it (esp. unfairly) opposed.
    I’m doing it right now, fully aware of it. I think it can lead to really productive interactions, just not with these types the OP describes.


  • It would not last even a week until I got into my first argument with a tankie. I saw them and argued with them from time to time on reddit, but people there usually saw right through the bullshit and downvoted them to oblivion.

    I just had one of these interactions. The whole thread was like that.
    I still enjoy the platform, but you gotta be very selective with whom you choose to engage.
    Absolute insane trolling, fighting the sources not the arguments, then sharing archived banned tweets as their sources :D There’s no winning.
    The only upside so far is that the right wing nuts seem to be rarer here, but tankies are the same thing with a different flavor.










  • You didnt present anything buddy. I read your link. It was inconsequential. Do you have anything that actually refute any of the facts? Lets just go for the civillian deaths, ignoring all and any speculative accusations. Just the hard numbers. Who killed them. How many?

    The argument wasnt about which source you like. You just pivoted there for you have nothing relevant to add. Your first move was to deflect from the topic at hand to an argument about sources. Okay there are dozens of them, which ones do you allow for this discussion?

    Okay, cool, news sites have conflicts of interest. Thats why you vet the ones that are mostly neutral DESPITE ties. Same applies to yours, but thats nothing you can even fucking fathom.

    Stop deflecting. Stay on topic for just one comment.

    Drop your sources on the civillian deaths or shut up and move on.



  • Just wanna point out that in this initial reply to the comment tree, you did the exact same thing I just called you out on:
    Misrepresenting (or to not assume malice, misREADING) another comment to then spin your entire narrative around that error.
    They said:

    Putin doesn’t mind how many Russians will die

    You base your retort on:

    If Putin doesn’t care how many Ukrainians die

    “this already shows you are terrible at reading. How am I supposed to expect you to treat anything else I show you seriously when you cannot even read your own material?”


  • Righty, we’re playign a game of semantics not content. Got it.
    I wrote

    totally reasonable in his target choices?

    Any further specific claims came from you.

    Further:

    There’s of course a bunch of civilian massacres still under active investigation, plus a lot of varying numbers between UA officials and independent reports.

    me acknowledging the unclear nature of war-time reports.
    Again, the rest is you projecting a slightly different argument onto my words to give yourself an easier time filing me away as a “propaganda victim” or whatever.

    First of all this statistic is of the total reports of civilian deaths on both sides in the war, this already shows you are terrible at reading

    If I were to argue like you do, I’d now go off about how you claim ALL civilian casualties died at Ukrainian hands.
    I don’t do that though, instead I’d ask you to provide the detailed breakdown you seem to have you hands on.

    You seem to also have missed this:

    The figures exclude Crimea and Sevastopol due to the lack of corroborating information.

    Meaning, your alleged genocide is not in this dataset.

    And lastly, you’re still not providing literally anything of substance yourself. You only tactic is discredit any potential source and ignore the ones you don’t wanna engage with in advance so you can later claim “no that one doesn’t count, I already said it’s propaganda” while the only thing you’re currently leaning on is an opinion piece from a heavily biased borderline conspiracy rag.

    Either you engage with what I’m writing and work with the people you’re talking to, or you keep arguing in bad faith. If you pick the latter, feel free, go off king, i’m not interested.




  • surely you have a lot of irrefutable sources for your claims.
    It’s crazy how many people here are touting the widely disclaimed coup or genocide.
    Like surely there’s a lot of publicly accessible, independent data on all of that, right?
    Surely there’s a very good reason why Crimea was invaded in a cloak-and-dagger operation by unmarked soldiers while russia officially demented any accusations it’s their troops? Surely.