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Cake day: October 11th, 2023

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  • This is a naive position. In a class society, the upper classes see to it that their kids get educated. If you’re the daughter of an AC repairman, and you like books with weird words in them, your chances to have a career in the field where you would thrive are slim to none. The best way to counter this is to offer a lot of education, to everyone, not just to the people “with a good head for reading” that just happens to also all have rich parents. For this noble cause, taking the risk that a few kids might be bored for a few hours seems like a reasonable prize to pay. You never know what kid is going to respond to what subject, this is why a broad education is important.



  • So your argument is politics should be cartoonish, stylized and theatrical instead of nuanced and actually constructive? Congratulations, you got your wish. Just be sure to make the most of it before the masters of simplification and emotionally charged language - the fascists - take over, it’s just a matter of time I guess.


  • Not really. My point is, it’s very easy to dismiss something you have no knowledge or experience of. And I try to avoid doing that because it just contributes to the noise (I’m sure I don’t always succeed). But I don’t think it’s a good thing if reading comprehension and general language skills decrease in general, do you? Do you think people think more clearly, are able to argue their case better or identify disinformation more accurately if they don’t know as many words or how to use them?



  • Society is a lot more than just work though - and I’d argue it’s the least interesting part - but yes, if you’re going to communicate with people, verbally or in writing, it’s going to be beneficial to you in your line of work.

    But how about being able to understand other people and the world around you better and perhaps contribute to it? Be able to involve yourself in the democratic process perhaps or otherwise benefit your community? I could go on and on, but who cares about any of that anymore, right?


  • olden days

    Sheesh, it’s not even a hundred years old yet.

    For a reader who likes weird books it isn’t boring. For someone required to endure it as part of a class and wants to go to a good school to become a marine biologist or chemistry major, it’s very boring.

    So there you have your answer why we can’t all collectively agree that it’s boring. Some people like it and/or get something out of reading it.

    You could say the same about anything that requires effort, like learning a programming language for example. Of course a lot of people are going to find it boring and obtuse - but no one questions why it’s sometimes a requirement to learn it. That being said, I doubt aspiring marine biologists are being forced to read Finnegans Wake in particular.



  • For many people, reading is boring.

    And sometimes it’s the role of education to expose students to things they benefit from but wouldn’t necessarily seek out on their own. Reading comprehension and use of language is a vital skill to function as an adult in society, and to acquire that you need to read, a lot. Short texts, long texts, different styles, poetry, prose, etc. There’s really no way around it.