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I actually didn’t care when there was an ad in the beginning of the video or what not. It was when I had to start watching multiple ads in the middle of a 10 minute video as well. Like come on, not even broadcast TV is that annoying.
Shorts are such a stupidly blatant way to start showing more ads than content, and they make navigating channels impossible. Hell you can’t even get away from ads in search results with premium.
Shorts are just a TikTok clone…
I don’t think I’ve ever seen the word “allowlisted”. Did someone forget “whitelisted” is a thing, or is that term finally cancelled?
Whitelist and blacklist were indeed cancelled despite having no racial origin.
There are cultural traditions of using colors as symbols, many of which are harmless – red for anger, blue for sadness, green for envy. Whitelist and blacklist come from the very long-standing theme of using white to represent good and black to represent evil.
Regardless of how you feel about the origin of those themes, it makes sense to start moving away from them now. Whether intentional or not, they can be harmful and aren’t really necessary.
not only that but whitelist-blacklist are just bad names.
even greenlist-redlist would be better (at least while we have light signals at intersections) as green means go red means stop are more universally understood.
but allowlist and blocklist are just plain better, they are self explanatory words. you don’t need to learn what they mean since it’s right there in the name.
whitelist-blacklist are names where you need to learn the meaning of them, sticking to them just because they were used in the past is not the best argument.
Words often work like unique signifiers “symbols”, often by using them you learn them and dont question it. Thats a neutral phenomenon. It has advantages and disadvantages. Mainly, redlist is as disconnected from meaning as much as blacklist is. Requiring the understanding of what a “car” is, and why they cant “wheel their way” thru a cross shaped road becuse of a colored light being there. (Mabe even “across” may make no sense anymore in the future) It sounds really stupid when put like that, but accessability is important.
it isn’t though. you don’t need cars to learn red means stop, we literally had miniature roads, crossing and signs at my pre-school (or whatever it’s called in English, the one you go at age 3 till 6, you start school at 6).
Stop sign is red, pedestrian crossing are just red - stop, green - go. you learn that from a very young age so the association is natural.
Also, just to be clear, I didn’t say redlist is good, just that it’s less stupid than blacklist.
God forbid you pay them rather than steal bandwidth.
It’s both funny and sad how self righteous people will get about piracy, and how condescending they will be towards people who just want to spend their time watching something.
Yet there is some truth to the comment. If we want a better less ad-dependend web we will have to address the topic of financing the infrastructure.
cool. don’t need YouTube and the constant “OMG you won’t believe what happens next” crap littered in the feed
I’ve said that a lot lately. There’s not much left anymore lol
What do you guys actually do or watch then? Pirated shows? I really like a lot of the YouTube content, but even Premium doesn’t hold a candle to the ad plus sponsor block experience.
If they really force me to subscribe, I will… to Nebula.
What Nebula really needs is some content that isn’t just people talking about stuff. I can appreciate a video essay now and then, but it’s the whole platform. I have a subscription right now, really only because of Philosophytube, but I can’t really find anything I’m that interested in watching.
It really needs some like sketch comedy, tech reviews, dumb little videos of people out doing stuff, or like, cats sitting on roombas. Cater to something other than wanting to listen to people blather their opinions all day.
I get what you are saying.
For me, though, almost everone I am subscribed to is on Nebula, except of the Linus Youtubematic Universe. Not aure though if they are worth the floatplane subscription.
Are you really asking this right now?
Yeah, probably not. But tbh, I watch them only for entertaiunment and the stupid stuff. I’d never go for their product reccommendations, even before the current storm.
I’m unironically considering ditching any online interaction(s) on the internet and use my PC solely for offline content (write documentaries, texts, play retro games). Because I really don’t want to use the internet with that level of intrusion in my pc.
Take any cybersecurity class and you’ll want to burn your tech in a dumpster. In most cases it’s security by obscurity from sheer numbers that hackers/sites don’t give a crap about you alone.
Additionally, every site you have ever visited tracks your browser, IP, OS, location, and more. This AdBlock tracker is just observing that you have a plugin for ad blocking. That’s the least intrusion that YouTube does.
In summary, there’s no need to be paranoid, but only because everything that can be stolen or observed already has been.
Also to add to what you said, switch away from (Google) Chrome everyone!!
Imagine this message, but on every website, and it literally cannot be prevented, as the browser itself will sooner than later just straight up tell the sites “yo, your content has been modified, maybe block the user from viewing”, snitching on you.
Come to think of it now, I wonder if this will affect poorly implemented sites using that feature to accidentally (or intentionally…) disable dark mode/reader extensions.
And then, due to Chrome’s market share, if left unchanged, web developers/companies will at some point just not bother anymore. Imagine “this works best in Google Chrome, download now” you see for some web apps today, but even with the most basic text based site that can’t prevent you from using your Adblocker in e.g. Firefox or Safari.
YouTube Premium is actually decent value if you also listen to music a lot.
oi mate have you heard of ViMusic?
The future looks grim if that WEI thing comes to practice. But it’s my understanding that identifying the ‘undesired’ browser is done by fingerprinting? In that case you could just fake it by using JShelter, even fake the extensions you’re using. Not sure how they’re gonna fend Revanced if at all.
Stay strong everybody
I definitely recommend people check out Youtube Premium if you hate ads and use YT a lot on smart TVs and mobile where ad-blocking is more difficult.
The majority of my video watching time is YT and I primarily do it on my phone or TV, so it is worth it for me. I wish I could cut out YT Music and save some money while using a music streaming service I prefer though.
If you got Android Smart TV that allows apk install, such as a fairly cheap FireTV Lite, check out SmartTubeNext. NewPipe or Revanced for mobile. Laugh the difficult in the face if you got the time and mood to try these out :)
They were able to build a business and be profitable for over a decade but now all of the sudden ad block is destroying YouTube? 🤔
Maybe they’re greedy, maybe more are using adblockers, maybe companies aren’t willing to spend as much per ad due to the economy, maybe they are profitable but the margin is too low to be worth the effort and risk associated with running a platform. We probably won’t know.
Remember when YouTube was just a video of a guy at the zoo? Pepperidge farm remembers…
Wish Jawed Karim never sold YouTube to Google. But alas…
If he didn’t sold it to Google I don’t think he have enough budget to maintain the site
Yeah, they had the better technology (Google Video was very bad) and Google had the money.
What was bad about Google Video? That was my favourite of the two: nice UI, clean, good recommendations
The thing that stuck with me was that I always had the impression that the Video quality was much worse than on Youtube. IIRC when there was content that was available on both platforms, Youtube had the much better picture and sound. But maybe that was just specific to the content I watched back then. There was not THAT much to see in the beginning, not like today where you can spend 24h straight and always see new stuff :-)
