Happy birthday 🎊🎉 GNU/Linux.

Today GNU/Linux is 32 years old.

It was thankfully released to the public on August 25th, 1991 by Linus Torvalds when he was only 21 years old student.

What a lovely journey 🤍

    • Captain Beyond@linkage.ds8.zone
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      1 year ago

      That’s debatable, since what people generally call “Linux” is more GNU than Linux anyway. “Linux” as the Linux fandom considers is it big and professional like GNU, because it is GNU (among other things).

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        1 year ago

        But what about Linux distributions compiled without GNU tools? Most popular Linux distribution’s kernel currently is compiled with Clang, not GCC, and as far as I am aware does not include anything from GNU. Of course Linux is historically influenced by GNU, but in current day and age they are orthogonal

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          1 year ago

          It doesn’t change the larger point that GNU is way bigger than Linux, though. There are a tonne of things that are larger than Linux, and GNU is one of them.

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            1 year ago

            That is an entirely different argument which I did not contest and the comment I have answered to did not make

            EDIT: Although, it depends on what we define as “bigger”. Binary size is certainly bigger, but user adoption is abysmal comparatively.

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              but user adoption is abysmal comparatively

              I guess this is a matter of perspective. What I was saying in my previous comment is that what people commonly refer to as “Linux” (as in “Linux distributions”) is not just Linux (which is just a kernel) but also includes a bunch of other stuff, including GNU (that is what GNU/Linux refers to). If you’re talking about the actual thing called Linux, you’d be right, because most GNU systems are GNU/Linux systems, whereas arguably most Linux systems are not GNU systems; Alpine and Android are non-GNU Linux systems.

              However, if like many in the Linux fandom you discount Android, then most Linux systems are GNU systems and vice-versa.

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      Weight your words my friend! GNU’s a behemoth !

      GCC alone is almost as big as Linux. Add core/binutils, the Hurd, … And you easily outclass the kernel itself !

      ~ $ du -sh linux-6.4.12/ gcc-13.2.0/                    1.5G    linux-6.4.12/                                   1.1G    gcc-13.2.0/
      

      Oh, and Emacs.

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        Speaking as someone that doesn’t understand computers very well: is Hurd usable as a kernel nowadays?

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            1 year ago

            What is actually the point of using hurd other than being able to say you use Hurd though?

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              Maybe it hurds in a good way.

              Nah, it’s a kernel it does kernel stuff and does not offer anything a normal user notices compared to other kernels.

              It might be interesting for people who work on kernels just to see different ways on how to solve common problems.