And since you won’t be able to modify web pages, it will also mean the end of customization, either for looks (ie. DarkReader, Stylus), conveniance (ie. Tampermonkey) or accessibility.
The community feedback is… interesting to say the least.
What the fuck is happening to the internet recently?
Twitter and Reddit CEOs completely losing their minds, and now Google of all companies wants to lock down the whole internet?
This isn’t even close to being okay. It’s 100% bullshit.
The enshittification of the internet shall continue.
We will fight and we will lose, as depressing as it sounds. The vast majority of people just don’t and won’t care.
We’re on Lemmy. We’re already winning!
We may win a battle or few, but not the war.
Then i’ll scrape the songs i currently watch on youtube with jdownload and stop using the page otherwise.
All they do is make the internet less attractive. Now that works to increase profits for a while, but eventually the content creators withdraw, the platforms become worse and eventually uncool and people stop using it, or use it less. Facebook is on a decline in western countries. We went through multiple video snippet apps already and tiktok and instagram too will be declining eventually.
We dont have to win the war because the war will never end. We just gotta make the best out of the battlefields we win.
If you don’t want to see ads, pay for the services or use services that do not force you to download unwanted data (ads) on your computer. It’s that simple.
Lol, I’m a paying Google One customer but that doesn’t stop them from shoving ads through my throat.
Then don’t use google services, maybe?
Yes, but my point is: even when you’re a paying customer, companies will still try to track you.
Another example: TV streaming service Molotov won’t work if you block tracking, even though you are subscribed!
As i said, if it bothers you, don’t use their services. Buy using their services and paying for it you are encouraging them even more. And trust me, at the end of they you don’t need TV and you don’t need google to live a happy life.
Man, we just had a scandal about Facebook tracking on the IRS website. You don’t need TV to live your life, but you definitely need to file your taxes and do stuff on the Internet to live a happy life.
“Vote with your wallet” is neoliberal bullshit. Just check recent FAANG acquisitions to verify that.
As you say, it was a scandel and i guess it is not longer beeing made on the IRS website?
What are the recent FAANG acquisitions you are talking about?
Makes me want to donate to Firefox, not the Mozilla Foundation. To Firefox.
Wait I don`t get it is there a difference ?
Can someone explain how the server is going to know whether or not the client browser is showing the ad? A stealthy browser would say, “hey yeah send that ad so I can render it to the user” and the server says, “yeah ok” and then <doesntRenderAdOnClientDevice>. How is the server going to know whether the ad is displayed or not? Don’t current gen adblockers not even retrieve the asset? If the asset was retrieved but not displayed, how (if even) can this be monitored?
The point of the proposal is to allow servers to be sure the software (ie browser) running on the device is what it says it is, and take away the ability to spoof what browser you’re running (which is currently fairly trivial).
So if someone makes a browser that doesn’t allow adblockers and always shows ads, the server can do things like only serve content to that browser.
Imho, without hardware support they won’t be able to keep up against the hackers. In the end it’s software and it’s running on hardware outside of the control of the server. There are millions of possible attacks to break/bypass this.
I guess Do No Harm is going really well
Don’t Be Evil
More like
Not-so-subtly undermine the free web
One comment mentions possible incompability with article 22 of the GDPR, and I sure hope the EU will stand their ground on this.
I can only imagine noyb letting all hell break loose. We need more people like him, dissecting corporations legal bs to find every last little thing we can possibly hold against them.
Obligatory use Firefox
Obligatory use Firefox
No way. Why should I feel obligated to use something I feel has inferior UX and UI than the browser I’m using now? For Mozilla’s CEO to rais her wage (again): https://calpaterson.com/mozilla.html ?
You people are really delusional if you really think that Mozilla are the only good guys (or good guys at all, for that matters).
Inb4, unimaginative people downvoting just because they can’t stand different opinions.
What’s your alternative?
EDIT: Oh I just found in the profile. It’s Brave. I used it for half a year before I got tired of the crypto ads sneaking into my home page’s links no matter how many times I deleted them and of some other stuff. I prefer Firefox’s UI. Also I don’t expect any browser to be 100% ethical but Brave is below Firefox in that list for me
It doesn’t matter and it’s irrelevant here. I just despise Mozilla and their false morality. Use whatever you want.
It’s not irrelevant since you stated Firefox is less good than what you are using now. Of course people are interested in a feasible alternative. So, since you introduced it, what are you using instead?
So you’ll rather give in to blatant corporate greed?
What kind of Alt-Right logic is this?
I didn’t know I was so evil that I’m doing the world a worse place just because I prefer a different browser. And I’m ideologically far form alt-right, btw.
OTOH, talking about corporate greed:
that is a funny graph. Even assuming the data is true, it deliberately missrepresents market share as usage. Which pretty much neglects the fact hat maybe a person or two and a device with a browser or two have entered the market since then.
Also it does not have any information on source of the data, methodology, definition of the terms etc. So it is pretty much worthless as an argument.
This sounds so sad
Lets break the near monopoly they have and give what google wants the finger.
https://duckduckgo.com/windows
You know how nearly every browser is now based on chromium? And firefox when its not chromium,
and even forefox adopted the extension limitations of chrome? Well I hear Duckduckgo’s new browser something new finally instead of based off an existing browser.It doesn’t have extensions yet but those are coming and adblock is baked in.
Ed: my 1st downvotes of my time on the fediverse. <3 you to folks.
and even forefox adopted the extension limitations of chrome?
You mean webextensions or webextensions v3? Because when it appeared they announced they’d support v3 but without the limitation.
Geez this would suck but as with other drm I’m sure the de-drm plug-in would follow
I’m afraid that browsers supporting this DRM would also block attempts to break it and that browsers that do not support it get blocked by websites using it
I haven’t thought this through, but if you had a headless browser acting as a proxy, couldn’t that pass the un-drm HTML & other resources to your actual browser?
I guess the drm stuff would be embedded in the js so it would have to block all js, so this wouldn’t work for the majority of the modern web.
Yes and no. Yes because the process would work in theory. No because the attestor (supposedly the OS?) wouldn’t attest your “headless proxy browser” as legitimate client.
Using a proxy would move the battlefield to how to trick the attestor. But realistically the whole thing will go down this route anyway. It’s another arms race. At the very end they’ll require cryptographic chips soldered into your device which make sure you’re not sideloading any software before running the OS, which would allow you to trick the legitimate attestor of the OS.
