• MTK@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    While I generally agree, there are definitely jobs that are easier to learn and generally are doable by anyone.

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          11 months ago

          Can you describe exactly what skills executives have that nobody else does?

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            11 months ago

            No, because you’re arguing in bad faith. They said “anyone can do it” which is obvious bullshit as there are enough companies run into the ground by incompetent CEOs. I never said nobody else that is not currently a CEO could do it which is the strawman that you are implying.

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    11 months ago

    Technically i am an “unskilled worker” because i did not finish university. Didn’t stop me from being the guy who develops the network chips in the company.

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      11 months ago

      the fuck is a network chip? why not just use a low power sock running an embedded Linux router? one statement raises so many questions!

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        11 months ago

        You’re not getting the necessary thoughtput with a low power socket at the critical infrastructure.

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    11 months ago

    Strawman. Unskilled /= low pay. High supply of workers/candidates vs. demand is what makes the pay low.

    There are plenty unskilled jobs that are relatively well paid because, for whatever reason, not enough people want to do them. Painter/Decorator for example, how hard is it to paint a wall.

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    11 months ago

    Except it’s literally just an economics term referring to positions that can be reasonably learned through on the job training with little or no prior experience.

    Stuff like this just muddies and distracts the conversation from the true issue, which is that those jobs deserve a living wage.

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      11 months ago

      You’ve literally just described every job that exists everywhere. It’s a bullshit term to other and denigrate certain groups.

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        11 months ago

        Lol sure. Are you ready to be an architect or a biochemist or an ironworker or a paramedic?

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            11 months ago

            No shit, the apprenticeship is the exact thing we claim makes a difference.

            We can argue where exactly we should draw the line: Is a two year apprenticeship required to qualify as skilled labor? Or is 6 months enough already? Maybe even a one month training course can be considered enough to learn a skill. But the fact is that some jobs require more training than others. And this distinction is worth making in some situations.

            I worked in unskilled Labor before, a few minutes teaching so I know what to do, maybe two hours supervised to make sure I don’t fuck up and that’s it.

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    11 months ago

    I’ve always found it ridiculous how farmers are considered unskilled. Like just anyone can balance on a moving trailer while throwing hay bailes around. It’s just soo easy to take a tractor apart and back together again because a gasket blew. It’s so easy to have a biggillion different skills varying from field to field. Literally everyone I know can run a mile while carrying a sailt lick. Farmers are just dumb and untalented. Am I right. /S

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        11 months ago

        Not the farm owners. They are usually the capitalists.

        But “everyone” picking manually asparagus or strawberry or wine grapes is usually from a low income country or an illegal work, working for pennies.