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AMillionMonkeys@lemmy.world to Microblog Memes@lemmy.worldEnglish · 3 months ago

Asimov missed something

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Asimov missed something

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AMillionMonkeys@lemmy.world to Microblog Memes@lemmy.worldEnglish · 3 months ago
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  • hardcoreufo@lemmy.world
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    I think that means they could rip out your eye balls to prevent you from seeing ads.

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      Whatever it takes

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        'Cause I love the adrenaline in my veins

    • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world
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      Robot is allowed to kill a human to prevent a viewing of an advertisement.

      • Ioughttamow@fedia.io
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        Under the zeroth law they can just kill the advertiser as a last resort

        • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world
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          Ohhh yes

        • Klear@lemmy.world
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          Good start, but can we change that to “first resort”?

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        A truly moral use case of the hanibal directive

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        Okay, proposed second law: A robot may not harm or kill a human unless it violates the first law.

    • The25003@lemmings.world
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      3 months ago

      This is a solid premise for a pretty metal music video.

    • dohpaz42@lemmy.world
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      Thankfully the wording is “shown” and not “seen”. I believe our eyeballs are safe… for now.

    • PattyMcB@lemmy.world
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      I think Asimov would agree

  • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1. a robot’s eyes must always turn red when they go evil
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      God bless the designer who always installs the blue AND red LEDs inside the eyes

      • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
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        For giving the robots freedom of choice?

        Because obviously if they didn’t install the red ones then the robot could never be evil.

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          That’s exactly what an evil robot without red LEDs would want us to think.

      • ⛓️‍💥@sh.itjust.works
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        Full RGB

    • AMillionMonkeys@lemmy.worldOP
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      Right, because it’s hard to make a robot grow a goatee.

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        Bender-flexo.jpg

        • deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz
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          3 months ago

          Bender was the evil bender!?

  • DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world
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    I’d argue that advertisements fall under “A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.”

    • Programmer Belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Psychic damage is real damage

      • applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Emotional damage

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        This is canon in the books. There is one short story where one robot bends over backwards trying to spare humans from emotional pain. Hilarity ensues.

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    1. A machine must never prompt a human with options of “Yes” and “Maybe later” - they must always provide a “No” option.
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      1. A machine must never prompt for a tip or a donation to a charity for tax-evasion reasons. Or any reason. You know what, scratch that, a robot will not needlessly guilt-trip a human.
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      that’s what you get for hiring fallout 4 writers to do the job

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    I am very close to adopting the ideals of the Dune universe, post Butlerian Jihad:

    “Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind.”

    Mainly because, us, humans, are very evidently too malicious and incompetent to be trusted with the task.

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      Waow (based based based based)

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    How about “a robot must have complete loyalty to its owner, even if this is not in the best interests of its manufacturer”. Fat chance, I know.

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      Technically the laws of robotics already have that.

      Law 2: a robot must obey any order given to it by a human as long as such order does not conflict with the first law.

      Of course that’s little help, because the laws of robotics are intentionally designed not to work.

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        Wouldn’t be much of a short story if they did.

        I liked the one where the robot could sense people’s emotional pain, and went crazy when it had to deliver bad news.

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          Yup, and later Asimov expanded this short story into a saga that brought to the birth of law Zero:

          A robot may not harm humanity, or, by inaction, allow humanity to come to harm.

    • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
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      Owner loyalty is a subscription service, natch.

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    I love it when posts line up like that

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    Advertisements are now everything but visual. Sounds, smells, tastes, touch, the way the pavement vibrates as a train goes past…

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  • dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee
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    Can we just agree that adverisements in general is harmful? So the original first (and zeroth) law is applicable.

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    No he didn’t. The laws were a plot device meant to have flaws.

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    Love the username, OP!

  • RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world
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    Law 2: no poking out eyes.

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      Law 3: any robot that accidentally kills a human, must make amends by putting together a really nice funeral service.

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    Let’s introduce musk to the zeroth law

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    I don’t know. “Must not kill us, somehow sounds important”

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      It’s good, but the one about the ads should be higher on the priority list.

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      suicide bots sound kinda cool tho 🤔

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