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I’m sitting behind a California plate that reads “88 RISE”. Is that…?
88 is heil hitler
And the swastika used to be a Buddhist simbol, your point?
Not used to be. Still are. Symbols can represent a lot of things, and it’s an ignorant person to assume that they MUST represent the bad one.
That’s exactly what the Nazi’s say. These two lighting bolts? It’s nothing bro! I just like the number 88! 14 is my lucky number! Etc etc
Could be 88 Rising. The asian music production company that has some great Asian artists.
I’m gonna go ahead and guess nobody got a vanity plate about an Asian music production company unless they own that company.
From Wikipedia:
Headquartered in New York City, the company also has offices in Los Angeles and Shanghai.
So it could be a company car.
With an Indiana plate? Sure lots of traveling fleet vehicles are registered in Indiana, but I’ve not seen office cars that largely remain local registered in Indiana
These idiots are the most adolescent childish racists ever.
This is the equivalent of a 10th grader typing 80085 into the school calculator!
Except walking around with a calculator that says 80085 isn’t telling several parts of the population that you want them dead and aren’t afraid to say it
I mean I did preface by calling them idiots!
Don’t underestimate fascists. Bigotry is pretty ignorant, but these people do what they do for a reason. Dog whistles allow them to find each other, but claim plausible deniability about their affiliation.
Like every single person you encounter who insists on writing “friends” as “frens” will tell you that they are just being cutesy, but everyone in-the-know understands that it means “Far Right EthnoNationalist”. Bring that up, they they throw their hands up and act like you’re crazy. If you’re one of them, you’ve found your people. If you’re not, they will gaslight you while insisting that you’re just looking for reasons to be offended.
People will use 14/88, “kek”, “OK” hand signs, and other little things that you can just write off as innocuous without much push back, but it’s all just a way of networking with each other. “Virtue Signalling” as they call it.
Or you could just skip the unnecessary ablesim, my point is perfectly clear and accurate as-is.
Where’s the ablesim?
Calling someone who is stupid stupid isn’t ableism stupid people deserve to be insulted they make a choice of being stupid.
There’s a difference between stupid and unintelligent. Unintelligent is just a limit on one’s intelligence but a stupid person is a stupid person by choice
Looks like someone who needs some break lights replacing, maybe two tires as well.
It just occurred to me how absolutely accurate it is that the cops are holding the line defending the small number of Nazis from the counter-protestors. They also have that cop who hates the Nazis just like everyone else, but he’s still doing his job keeping everyone back, which is also pretty accurate.
“I hate Illinois Nazis.”
Illinoizis
The disambiguation page for Boogaloo is now a bunch of awesome shit like music and dance styles plus an extremist movement…
Fuck you, choose a different name for your whack ass antics.
I wonder how Thomas Kia feels about the shout out.
Well his number is right there, someone can give him a call…
So I grew up in Canada, on the west coast, basically Vancouver. So I’m well aware of the dog-whistles. I now live in Scotland. There was an event where I work recently, and the event contractors were 88 Events. And immediately I was like: FUCKIN NAZIS!
My wife seems to think that they’re too…idk…girly? to be nazis, but where the fuck did 88 come from, they started up in 97, so couldn’t be that. I feel like I’m being fuckin paranoid, but the fascy bastards are coming out the woodworks lately…shrugs
88 stands for HH, which means Heil Hitler.
There are two people I know who have racist relatives on FB. Their profile names are
MOI NI GARR
‘sambo’ jones
apparently you can be racist as fuck with your username on that cess pool.
what is it with white supremacists man… brain worms
That’s not a bug, it’s a feature. Meta knows that things like white nationalism drives engagement, so they don’t do anything about it.
Facebook (Fuck them, I’m not calling it Meta, its stupid) does do something, though.
It actively encourages it, because right wing extremists are a big chunk of their revenue. Since right wing extremists are more engaged (obsessed) than anyone else, and click more ads than anyone else.
Right wing extremists are the honey pot.
Which is why regular people can get banned for the most ridiculous of shit, yet right wing racists doesnt get banned even when posting terrorist threats, death threats, or racial slurs.
and honestly, its not just facebook. Its all social media.
I live in Vancouver but didn’t grow up here. I know of the 88->HH dog whistle, and um 14 words or something like that but are there any others I ought to keep my kids away from?
I don’t know if it’s used in your Region but in Germany 444 is used by neonazis to represent “Deutschland den Deutschen” -> “Germany to the Germans”. Maybe there are alliterations like that in your region?
Also, there are certain clothing labels popular in these circles. Lonsdale for example can be worn to only show the “nsda” part as a reference to the NSDAP. There are other examples too.
The 14 words, usually seen with a swastika and in the form of 14/88.
There’s others, but they’re usually a co-opt of something common or popular.
A few Behind the Bastards episodes on the neo-nazi perpetuation machine:
Behind the Bastards - How YouTube Became a Perpetual Nazi Machine
And then a multi-part series on the way kids are indoctrinated into these things:
Behind the Bastards - Part One: The Eternal Fascist 🅴
Behind the Bastards Part Two: An American Fascist Faith 🅴
Behind the Bastards - Part Three: The Apostle of Fascism 🅴
Behind the Bastards - Part Four: How To Build An Army 🅴
Behind the Bastards - Part Five: The Hidden Civil War 🅴
Behind the Bastards - Part Six: The Perfect Soldier 🅴
Behind the Bastards - Part Seven: The Digital Reich 🅴But don’t take this as something to freak out about. Keep an open dialogue with your kids, the best way to make sure they don’t turn into a racist, fascist or criminal…is to be as big a part of their life as you can without trying to control them. Talk to them about especially the history of racism in Canada, the concerted effort to wipe out First Nations identity and people, and bring them to as many different cultural events as you can. These movements thrive on the Us and Them mentality, if you can teach them that we’re all just people, that our similarities outweigh our differences, and that we’re culturally healthier with many different people… Well, that’ll go a long way.
Edit: formatting is hard early in the morning…
In a Korean car too which is funny.
What does the BODG stand for?
It says BOOG, as in boogaloo, as in Civil War 2: Electric Boogaloo
You’ve got to be kidding? They’re appropriating Electric Boogaloo (a film about break dancing and the black community) as their slogan? That is wrong on so many levels.
Not only that, according to the wikipedia article OP linked:
“The boogaloo movement has created logos and other imagery incorporating [igloo] snow huts and Hawaiian prints based on these derivations.”
If white supremacy was so “supreme”, why are these morons using Indigenous-based iconography for their movement I wonder. They’ll claim it’s to “fly under the radar”, but that just makes them look even more smooth brained.
Wait what the fuck I wear Hawaiian print shirts all the time, have I been looking like a fascist and not known it?
Naaah dude, don’t let them claim Hawaiian shirts, keep wearing them and being radical
You can tell who’s a Nazi cause their Hawaiian shirts have guns on them. Mine shirts have flowers and boats and stuff.
A few years ago Republicans were also dancing to System of a Down’s Killing in the Name Of song as if it was pro-them.
Never underestimate the amount of stupid and innapropriate conservatives are capable of.
Ronald Reagan used Springsteen’s “Born in the USA” like it was a patriotic song
“Killing in the Name” is by Rage Against the Machine, but the point stands
Woops, apologies XD thank you for the rectification
So, funny story, as a kid my favorite number was 8, had a few reasons that matched 8.
So I always used it in names and such. But, often it wasnt unique, so I used 88 instead. Emails, account names, even video game characters have 88 in them to this day.
… Am I accidentally a Nazi?
My wife’s pet name is Boog, and I’m determined not to let Nazis take it away.
I had a cat growing up named Boog… named after John “Boog” Powell… the baseball player, not Nazis.
No. 88 is just a number. It can be used as a dog whistle, but it can also be used, for instance, to describe a quantity equidistant between 87 and 89. Numbers and symbols don’t make a Nazi, actions and rhetoric do.
I love Norse symbology. I’m not going to stop loving it because some fuckbrains use it to spread hate. Fuck that.
Based. Same goes for the boogaloo “movement” just because there are Nazis in it doesn’t mean it’s a primaryily Nazi community.
No, but it is primarily a white supremacists movement and the ‘88’ on the license plate kinda takes away all doubt.
Bro. Read the comment. There’s shitheads in every community. Boogaloo is about preparing for what we see as the inevitable second civil war. Not anyone’s skin color.
Born in 1988? Lots of folks born that year decided to have those two digits in their first Internet usernames as well. A few of those will still be in use, no doubt, so you’re not alone. (Me? No, I’m older.)
In your shoes, I’d maybe think about changing things around, especially the easy ones, but you’re not me, nor I you.
The way it was explained to me is that H is the 8th letter of the alphabet, HH stands for Hile Hitler
Unless there are other things on the car that can support this, we can’t simply draw any conclusion. 88 also means good fortune in Chinese culture. By OP’s premise, there are lots of Nazis in my country.
Her linked to the partyy explaining the “BOOG” portion as well.
I missed that,.my bad.
Your back must hurt from moving all those goalposts.
That’s… not what moving the goalposts means.
The goalposts to being a nazi got moved farther back because “we can’t know their intent from just this license plate” and then 2 seconds later, the goalposts for being a nazi was moved way forward because “everyone who says good luck in Chinese is a Nazi.”
Yes, that’s literally moving the goalposts on what defines a Nazi.
Moving the goalposts means changing the rules of a debate while having it. They said they’d agree with them being a Nazi if there was evidence beyond the number 88 being on the license plate, someone else pointed out what the “BOOG” meant, they accepted that the person who owns the car is a Nazi. No goalposts moved.
I think you should be cautious of just how much faith you’re putting into this person.
They said they’d agree
They didn’t. They only gave reasons to not agree. They implied that they would agree if that condition was met, but that’s not what they said.
they accepted that the person who owns the car is a Nazi
Again, they didn’t. They said, “I missed that,.my bad.” They didn’t change anything about their argument from this information (that was always available to them), just acknowledged that they didn’t use it.
Maybe I should’ve called their argument a strawman argument instead, but the discrepancy between what they say OP can call a Nazi and what they can call a Nazi feels wide enough to change the rules of the debate for each side.
Yes, I simplified for the sake of brevity. But you’re reading a lot into their comments that just isn’t there. Yes they were running interference for a nazi (and not making a particularly compelling case) but there’s nothing to indicate it was intentional. (It’s not a strawman argument either btw, unless you’re claiming they intentionally ignored the boogaloo reference rather than just not knowing about them.)
Edit: Also I don’t think not making assumptions about someone’s motivations is the same thing as ‘putting faith’ in them.
Ah, yes… the perfect example of “Everything I don’t like is Hitler” and “If you type 666 you’ll become Satan!”.
