• boyi@lemmy.sdf.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    edit-2
    22 days ago

    Unless there are other things on the car that can support this, we can’t simply draw any conclusion. 88 also means good fortune in Chinese culture. By OP’s premise, there are lots of Nazis in my country.

        • IzzyScissor@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          21 days ago

          The goalposts to being a nazi got moved farther back because “we can’t know their intent from just this license plate” and then 2 seconds later, the goalposts for being a nazi was moved way forward because “everyone who says good luck in Chinese is a Nazi.”

          Yes, that’s literally moving the goalposts on what defines a Nazi.

          • decivex@yiffit.net
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            21 days ago

            Moving the goalposts means changing the rules of a debate while having it. They said they’d agree with them being a Nazi if there was evidence beyond the number 88 being on the license plate, someone else pointed out what the “BOOG” meant, they accepted that the person who owns the car is a Nazi. No goalposts moved.

            • IzzyScissor@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              edit-2
              21 days ago

              I think you should be cautious of just how much faith you’re putting into this person.

              They said they’d agree

              They didn’t. They only gave reasons to not agree. They implied that they would agree if that condition was met, but that’s not what they said.

              they accepted that the person who owns the car is a Nazi

              Again, they didn’t. They said, “I missed that,.my bad.” They didn’t change anything about their argument from this information (that was always available to them), just acknowledged that they didn’t use it.

              Maybe I should’ve called their argument a strawman argument instead, but the discrepancy between what they say OP can call a Nazi and what they can call a Nazi feels wide enough to change the rules of the debate for each side.

              • decivex@yiffit.net
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                edit-2
                21 days ago

                Yes, I simplified for the sake of brevity. But you’re reading a lot into their comments that just isn’t there. Yes they were running interference for a nazi (and not making a particularly compelling case) but there’s nothing to indicate it was intentional. (It’s not a strawman argument either btw, unless you’re claiming they intentionally ignored the boogaloo reference rather than just not knowing about them.)

                Edit: Also I don’t think not making assumptions about someone’s motivations is the same thing as ‘putting faith’ in them.