Your inability to understand the claims and their defenses is not my problem. You’re forcing this thread to go around and around because you can’t accept it, so there’s nowhere for us to go from here.
JFC that’s what I’ve been saying about you this entire thread.
Considering I asked first, I’ll answer your questions as soon as you answer mine (name one White Supremacist who is not a racist). Otherwise, we’re done here.
As I said multiple times many different ways, but I guess it still has not sunk in, there does not need to be a good white supremacists for white supremacy not to be a threat, rarity is what makes white supremacy not a threat.
I’ve been waiting for you’re counter argument to this but you’ve been unwilling/unable to provide one.
I haven’t countered this because you can just look at the history of western civilization for all the examples of white supremacy being a threat you could possibly want.
Which is another reason why using prevalence of recent, local violence is a dumb argument to take here, because white supremacy has historically been such a huge threat to so many people that I can’t believe you’d actually try and make the point that “it’s not that bad in this specific area at this specific time.”
The fact that you’re only focusing on recent violence in the US due to white supremacy shows your argument only works in the tiniest vacuum you can come up with. That doesn’t mean you have a valid argument here. So prevalence aside, if you are trying to then make the point that one is worse than the other, you need to contend with the fact that most Muslims are not violent in the name of their faith. So for you to have any further path in this discussion you must show the same with white supremacy. In other words I’ve just been ahead of you this entire time.
Also congratulations, you’re taking the side of white supremacy 👏
History of being a threat does not make something a threat now. The black plague is not a huge threat now.
if you are trying to then make the point that one is worse than the other, you need to contend with the fact that most Muslims are not violent in the name of their faith.
I’ve never made that claim, you’re getting confused with the straw man you keep trying to set up. As I’ve said multiple times, but it apparently hasn’t sunk in, the comparison to Muslim extremism was only to say both are rare, and are used to control idiots.
Also congratulations, you’re taking the side of white supremacy 👏
Never took their side, just said their misdeeds are given publicity to scare morons into thinking they are a huge threat.
Did you just compare systemic racism to the black plague? Another apples and oranges comparison. The main difference between the two is that one is integrated heavily into modern society still, and remains an active, massive influence on the lives of innocent beyond just fatalities, and the other ended in 1353.
We’ve both already agreed they’re rare I don’t know why you keep bringing that up like I’ve been ignoring it. I flat out acknowledged it in a recent comment. That’s still not a useful point to make in this discussion.
You are effectively taking the side of white supremacists even trying to suggest that they’re in some way equal to Muslims. One again to make the comparison you are trying to make, you must be able to show that there are such things as white supremacists who are not racists, because there are Muslims that are not violent or extreme in their beliefs.
Ok I guess you just aren’t going to get it. ¯\_(ツ)\_/¯
I can’t “get it” because you are unable defend your claims.
Your inability to understand the claims and their defenses is not my problem. You’re forcing this thread to go around and around because you can’t accept it, so there’s nowhere for us to go from here.
There is, you could answer my questions, some that I’ve been asking through this whole thread.
JFC that’s what I’ve been saying about you this entire thread.
Considering I asked first, I’ll answer your questions as soon as you answer mine (name one White Supremacist who is not a racist). Otherwise, we’re done here.
As I said multiple times many different ways, but I guess it still has not sunk in, there does not need to be a good white supremacists for white supremacy not to be a threat, rarity is what makes white supremacy not a threat.
I’ve been waiting for you’re counter argument to this but you’ve been unwilling/unable to provide one.
I haven’t countered this because you can just look at the history of western civilization for all the examples of white supremacy being a threat you could possibly want.
Which is another reason why using prevalence of recent, local violence is a dumb argument to take here, because white supremacy has historically been such a huge threat to so many people that I can’t believe you’d actually try and make the point that “it’s not that bad in this specific area at this specific time.”
The fact that you’re only focusing on recent violence in the US due to white supremacy shows your argument only works in the tiniest vacuum you can come up with. That doesn’t mean you have a valid argument here. So prevalence aside, if you are trying to then make the point that one is worse than the other, you need to contend with the fact that most Muslims are not violent in the name of their faith. So for you to have any further path in this discussion you must show the same with white supremacy. In other words I’ve just been ahead of you this entire time.
Also congratulations, you’re taking the side of white supremacy 👏
History of being a threat does not make something a threat now. The black plague is not a huge threat now.
I’ve never made that claim, you’re getting confused with the straw man you keep trying to set up. As I’ve said multiple times, but it apparently hasn’t sunk in, the comparison to Muslim extremism was only to say both are rare, and are used to control idiots.
Never took their side, just said their misdeeds are given publicity to scare morons into thinking they are a huge threat.
Did you just compare systemic racism to the black plague? Another apples and oranges comparison. The main difference between the two is that one is integrated heavily into modern society still, and remains an active, massive influence on the lives of innocent beyond just fatalities, and the other ended in 1353.
We’ve both already agreed they’re rare I don’t know why you keep bringing that up like I’ve been ignoring it. I flat out acknowledged it in a recent comment. That’s still not a useful point to make in this discussion.
You are effectively taking the side of white supremacists even trying to suggest that they’re in some way equal to Muslims. One again to make the comparison you are trying to make, you must be able to show that there are such things as white supremacists who are not racists, because there are Muslims that are not violent or extreme in their beliefs.