JFC that’s what I’ve been saying about you this entire thread.
Considering I asked first, I’ll answer your questions as soon as you answer mine (name one White Supremacist who is not a racist). Otherwise, we’re done here.
As I said multiple times many different ways, but I guess it still has not sunk in, there does not need to be a good white supremacists for white supremacy not to be a threat, rarity is what makes white supremacy not a threat.
I’ve been waiting for you’re counter argument to this but you’ve been unwilling/unable to provide one.
I haven’t countered this because you can just look at the history of western civilization for all the examples of white supremacy being a threat you could possibly want.
Which is another reason why using prevalence of recent, local violence is a dumb argument to take here, because white supremacy has historically been such a huge threat to so many people that I can’t believe you’d actually try and make the point that “it’s not that bad in this specific area at this specific time.”
The fact that you’re only focusing on recent violence in the US due to white supremacy shows your argument only works in the tiniest vacuum you can come up with. That doesn’t mean you have a valid argument here. So prevalence aside, if you are trying to then make the point that one is worse than the other, you need to contend with the fact that most Muslims are not violent in the name of their faith. So for you to have any further path in this discussion you must show the same with white supremacy. In other words I’ve just been ahead of you this entire time.
Also congratulations, you’re taking the side of white supremacy 👏
History of being a threat does not make something a threat now. The black plague is not a huge threat now.
if you are trying to then make the point that one is worse than the other, you need to contend with the fact that most Muslims are not violent in the name of their faith.
I’ve never made that claim, you’re getting confused with the straw man you keep trying to set up. As I’ve said multiple times, but it apparently hasn’t sunk in, the comparison to Muslim extremism was only to say both are rare, and are used to control idiots.
Also congratulations, you’re taking the side of white supremacy 👏
Never took their side, just said their misdeeds are given publicity to scare morons into thinking they are a huge threat.
Did you just compare systemic racism to the black plague? Another apples and oranges comparison. The main difference between the two is that one is integrated heavily into modern society still, and remains an active, massive influence on the lives of innocent beyond just fatalities, and the other ended in 1353.
We’ve both already agreed they’re rare I don’t know why you keep bringing that up like I’ve been ignoring it. I flat out acknowledged it in a recent comment. That’s still not a useful point to make in this discussion.
You are effectively taking the side of white supremacists even trying to suggest that they’re in some way equal to Muslims. One again to make the comparison you are trying to make, you must be able to show that there are such things as white supremacists who are not racists, because there are Muslims that are not violent or extreme in their beliefs.
Did you just compare systemic racism to the black plague? Another apples and oranges comparison. The main difference between the two is that one is integrated heavily into modern society still, and remains an active, massive influence on the lives of innocent beyond just fatalities, and the other ended in 1353.
Both were prevalent in the past and are not now.
Care to provide any evidence white supremacy is integrated heavily into modern society, has a massive influence on the lives of the innocent?
We’ve both already agreed they’re rare I don’t know why you keep bringing that up like I’ve been ignoring it.
How can something that is rare be “integrated heavily into modern society still, and remains an active, massive influence on the lives of innocent beyond just fatalities”?
You are effectively taking the side of white supremacists even trying to suggest that they’re in some way equal to Muslims.
I’ve never suggested white supremists are equal to Muslims, this is the straw man you keep pushing. I used the term radical Muslims, you even acknowledged it. Your gotcha moment isn’t there Colombo.
Just because you don’t experience systemic racism on a day-to-day basis doesn’t mean it isn’t prevalent. Your privilege is showing.
You haven’t provided any instances of white supremacy being prevalent. Are you now trying to say white supremacy is prevalent, I could have sworn you conceded it was rare.
POC get statistically higher rates on loans, lower pay, and inferior healthcare, especially women.
Source? Did they correct for wages and credit score or is this another sensationalized study to get morons whipped up into a frenzy?
Dude, you’re the one that first tried to compare the two, go back and read your first comment in this thread if you don’t believe me.
You do know you can compare things and say that certain things are similar but not claim they are equal right?
JFC that’s what I’ve been saying about you this entire thread.
Considering I asked first, I’ll answer your questions as soon as you answer mine (name one White Supremacist who is not a racist). Otherwise, we’re done here.
As I said multiple times many different ways, but I guess it still has not sunk in, there does not need to be a good white supremacists for white supremacy not to be a threat, rarity is what makes white supremacy not a threat.
I’ve been waiting for you’re counter argument to this but you’ve been unwilling/unable to provide one.
I haven’t countered this because you can just look at the history of western civilization for all the examples of white supremacy being a threat you could possibly want.
Which is another reason why using prevalence of recent, local violence is a dumb argument to take here, because white supremacy has historically been such a huge threat to so many people that I can’t believe you’d actually try and make the point that “it’s not that bad in this specific area at this specific time.”
The fact that you’re only focusing on recent violence in the US due to white supremacy shows your argument only works in the tiniest vacuum you can come up with. That doesn’t mean you have a valid argument here. So prevalence aside, if you are trying to then make the point that one is worse than the other, you need to contend with the fact that most Muslims are not violent in the name of their faith. So for you to have any further path in this discussion you must show the same with white supremacy. In other words I’ve just been ahead of you this entire time.
Also congratulations, you’re taking the side of white supremacy 👏
History of being a threat does not make something a threat now. The black plague is not a huge threat now.
I’ve never made that claim, you’re getting confused with the straw man you keep trying to set up. As I’ve said multiple times, but it apparently hasn’t sunk in, the comparison to Muslim extremism was only to say both are rare, and are used to control idiots.
Never took their side, just said their misdeeds are given publicity to scare morons into thinking they are a huge threat.
Did you just compare systemic racism to the black plague? Another apples and oranges comparison. The main difference between the two is that one is integrated heavily into modern society still, and remains an active, massive influence on the lives of innocent beyond just fatalities, and the other ended in 1353.
We’ve both already agreed they’re rare I don’t know why you keep bringing that up like I’ve been ignoring it. I flat out acknowledged it in a recent comment. That’s still not a useful point to make in this discussion.
You are effectively taking the side of white supremacists even trying to suggest that they’re in some way equal to Muslims. One again to make the comparison you are trying to make, you must be able to show that there are such things as white supremacists who are not racists, because there are Muslims that are not violent or extreme in their beliefs.
Both were prevalent in the past and are not now.
Care to provide any evidence white supremacy is integrated heavily into modern society, has a massive influence on the lives of the innocent?
How can something that is rare be “integrated heavily into modern society still, and remains an active, massive influence on the lives of innocent beyond just fatalities”?
I’ve never suggested white supremists are equal to Muslims, this is the straw man you keep pushing. I used the term radical Muslims, you even acknowledged it. Your gotcha moment isn’t there Colombo.
Just because you don’t experience systemic racism on a day-to-day basis doesn’t mean it isn’t prevalent. Your privilege is showing.
POC get statistically higher rates on loans, lower pay, and inferior healthcare, especially women.
Dude, you’re the one that first tried to compare the two, go back and read your first comment in this thread if you don’t believe me.
If you’re gonna stay this dedicated to a thread make sure to follow your own arguments.
You haven’t provided any instances of white supremacy being prevalent. Are you now trying to say white supremacy is prevalent, I could have sworn you conceded it was rare.
Source? Did they correct for wages and credit score or is this another sensationalized study to get morons whipped up into a frenzy?
You do know you can compare things and say that certain things are similar but not claim they are equal right?
Once again, you made the comparison first so I’m waiting for your example before I provide my proof.
The burden of proof is on the person that first made a comparison statement.
Name a white supremacist who is not a racist, and I’ll happily oblige.