• captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    I’m struck by the fact that as a trans woman I look more cis than some women I know who’ve given birth. I’m actually worried about a cis friend of mine if we ever get bathroom laws here.

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      I’ve been trying to explain to my less enlightened family for years that requiring a trans man to use the women’s bathroom only makes it easier for men to just walk in since having a beard and a dad bod no longer means you have to use the men’s room.

      These laws just don’t make any sense and can only make whatever they are afraid of (men hearing their wives and daughters tinkle, apparently) worse.

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        16 days ago

        That’s what has always stumped me. They do realize that trans men look like… men. Right? Like, they want some dude to just stroll into the women’s bathroom? Like, legally want that dude to be forced to stroll into that women’s bathroom?!?

        The dude doesn’t want to be in there. Women don’t want the dude to be in there. Why do these politicians want the dude to be in there?!

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          16 days ago

          and the trans person gets assaulted in the bathroom they are ‘supposed’ to use! Its just an excuse to banish us from public, there is no right answer.

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            16 days ago

            Exactly. It’s like telling black people to use their water fountain. But there isn’t a fucking water fountain for them.

            Regression of society sucks to watch in real time.

            Edit: hope this isn’t an offensive correlation. 💀

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      16 days ago

      Based on that numbers it will be mostly cis woman who get harassed. There have been plenty of cases of it already. There was a few big ones in my state when people complaining that their daughters lost in sport

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      16 days ago

      I’ve been saying that for a while. Not only does this open up many trans women to additional harassment, it also opens it up to any cis woman someone decides looks too masculine to be a “real” woman.

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        16 days ago

        Let’s cut to the chase.

        This bill, and many like it, are created with a clear purpose: to subjugate women. Harming the LGBTQ2+ community is almost secondary, since they can do that just fine already.

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          16 days ago

          Just curious; why did you put a 2 in LGBTQ+? I’ve just never seen that before and wonder what it means? Does it capture the IA?

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            16 days ago

            2 is for 2-spirit; I’ve seen both 2 and 2S, but either way it refers to Indigenous 3rd-gender folks.

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                No problem. It’s a more common term in Canada, so I’ve been seeing it since I was in high school which was like 15 years ago. In my head the “long” LGBT string has always been 2SLGBTQIA+ but I realize the “2S” part isn’t as well known.

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                  Ahhh, that makes sense. I’m from America and have seen it evolve from LGB > LGBT > LGBTQ > LGBTQI+. I’m unsure of how well your natives are represented in Canada, but the way we treat them here speaks as to why I’ve never heard the term. They are practically 2nd class citizens according to our government.